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post #1 of 13 Old 07-26-2010, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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Oxygen Sensor keeps going bad

I have a 1997 TJ 2.5L 5 speed with 174,000 miles on it. I have now gone through 2 oxygen sensors since I have owned it (3 years 1500 miles). The last one lasted about 300 miles and now I am getting a code and the jeep is running rich again. The last owner drive it a while with it like with it running rich. I knew this and when I checked the jeep out I saw a broken wire on the sensor. Replace it for the first time. I am not losing coolant and my engine temp is good. I have no white smoke and oil looked fine last change.

Any ideas why they the o2 sensor keeps going bad?


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post #2 of 13 Old 07-26-2010, 08:42 PM
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What code are you getting? How are you determining the sensor is bad?
If you have a rich condition, I doubt the O2 sensor is bad.

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Is there any chance the 02 sensors have gotten any whiffs of silicone caulking? An 02 sensor can die quickly if it gets around any fresh uncured silicone glue or caulking.

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This is the key code I am getting. Code 51 A lean air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor. I will take it to an Autozone to have it read in the next few days.

I almost sure they have not touch any silicone.

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I almost sure they have not touch any silicone.
It doesn't need to touch it, an 02 sensor just needs a good strong whiff of silicone to go bad.

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I don't think there has been silicone anywhere near the sensor. This last one went right in from the box.

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What brand of sensors are they?

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Since you mentioned the original wiring being broken, maybe the wiring got corroded and high resistance is burning them out, or you have bare wire somewhere shorting. Any exhaust leaks? Specifically at the header bolts or cat?

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The first was a Bosch and the one I just put in was a NKG.

The wire that was broken was right at the end of the sensor but I will take a closer look.

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Out of the several hundred OBD II codes that may be set, not one of them is "O2 sensor bad". Since you just replaced it, I would not assume it bad again.

Sure, your O2 sensor may be bad, but my suggestion is you fix your wiring problem, or your vacuum leak, or leaky fuel injector, or incorrect fuel pressure.

PS> The lean/rich codes are two trip codes. So, if you reset the code and make a trip without of CEL it doesn't mean you fixed it yet. You need to take a few individual trips without a CEL to confirm.

Good luck with it. That code is sometimes hard to properly diagnose and fix.

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It doesn't need to touch it, an 02 sensor just needs a good strong whiff of silicone to go bad.
It's not that I don't believe you Jerry, but HUH?
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