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Unread 02-23-2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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I am looking to put OX lockers that fit my 2006 TJ and also upgrade with Chromoly axels. Everything is stock as far as the drive train, with the exception of 33 wheels, 3.5 lift kit, slip yoke, drive shaft,and gear ratio at 4.10. I have heard horror stories regarding the retainer clips breaking, but will lockers tend to add insult to injury, or are there other options without swapping out everything and going complete Dana 44 with OX?
No intent of going rock crawling, just want that extra when I need it. Snow and Sand is of the occasional trips, mostly trail trips.

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Unread 02-24-2009, 02:06 PM   #2
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You don't list it on your profile, but by the way you said, "or are there other options without swapping out everything and going complete Dana 44 with OX?", makes me believe that you have a Dana 35 rear axle. Just by switching to chromoly axles, you won't eliminate the other Dana 35 weakness, the spider gears. Unless you plan on going to a Superior Super 35 Kit, I wouldn't put a locker in a Dana 35.

If you're only going to be wheeling in sand and snow, a locker might not be of very much benefit to you anyway, as long as all of your tires keep in contact with the ground. I think you might be better off just making sure to air down your tires and get either a Currie Antirock Swaybar or ORO SwayLoc.

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Unread 02-24-2009, 04:08 PM   #3
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but if he put's in an ox locker there is no more spider gears. i have ox front and rear and love them. i also have alloy usa 30 spline shafts in the rear. it's nice to know if you need them you have em flip a lever and go imo.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 06:41 PM   #4
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but if he put's in an ox locker there is no more weak spider gears. i have ox front and rear and love them. i also have alloy usa 30 spline shafts in the rear. it's nice to know if you need them you have em flip a lever and go imo.
Gotta agree with this. oh and X2 ^^
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:15 PM   #5
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a locked axle can help allot in sand. if you have a bit of a side-hill the uphill tire will look like its spinning but it wont be pulling/pushing the vehicle its rotation will only keep up with the others. had a situation where a lockerless friend was drifting sideways into the ocean. the slope was minimal but the front end had a hard time keeping it pointed in the right direction. others with lockers had no problem. our "sand" is very course shell material that has allot of air in it and is very deep.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:19 PM   #6
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but if he put's in an ox locker there is no more spider gears. i have ox front and rear and love them. i also have alloy usa 30 spline shafts in the rear. it's nice to know if you need them you have em flip a lever and go imo.
Locking your front Dana 30 is a lot different than locking his rear Dana 35c which is simply not strong enough for a locker. Your front Dana 30 will survive being locked, his rear Dana 35c will not. Why? Because the front axle seldom sees more than about 50% of the torque that the rear axle commonly sees.

A stock Dana 35c rear axle should never be locked. It can be upgraded so it can survive being locked but stock, it's not up to being locked. Really.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:20 PM   #7
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I am looking to put OX lockers that fit my 2006 TJ and also upgrade with Chromoly axels. Everything is stock as far as the drive train, with the exception of 33 wheels, 3.5 lift kit, slip yoke, drive shaft,and gear ratio at 4.10. I have heard horror stories regarding the retainer clips breaking, but will lockers tend to add insult to injury, or are there other options without swapping out everything and going complete Dana 44 with OX?
No intent of going rock crawling, just want that extra when I need it. Snow and Sand is of the occasional trips, mostly trail trips.
the clips don't fail.

The shaft fails. A regular 27 spline D35 haft necks down from 1.3" to 1.15". Where the transition is is where it fails.
If your going with an OX, get the 30 spline version and the cromo shafts to go with it. you'll have no problems then.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:23 PM   #8
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Selectable lockers are great even in snow, most people don't like auto lockers on snow and ice because they lock when ever they have power so they tend to push out to a fish tale. With selectables like a an OX this is eliminated. Lockers are great in deep snow, off road. Lockers lead opens follow in deep snow wheeling. But as far as your rear axle to put an OX locker in it you are going to have to get a super 35 kit with and OX locker which they do make now. A stock D35 won't take a locker, even with chromemoly shafts, you could do it with a c-clip elminator kit, and a locker.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 09:26 AM   #9
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Locking your front Dana 30 is a lot different than locking his rear Dana 35c which is simply not strong enough for a locker. Your front Dana 30 will survive being locked, his rear Dana 35c will not. Why? Because the front axle seldom sees more than about 50% of the torque that the rear axle commonly sees.

A stock Dana 35c rear axle should never be locked. It can be upgraded so it can survive being locked but stock, it's not up to being locked. Really.
I understand that jerry. that is why I stated that I upgraded the rear to alloy USA shafts
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Unread 02-25-2009, 10:06 AM   #10
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I have OX lockers front and rear (D30 & D35) with stock 27 spline axles and i've never had a problem. I love them and I would definitally recomend them to anyone. I do some hard wheeling but its mud or dirt. I dont do any rock crawling. Everybody has there own opinion but with my experiance there great!
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I have an Ox in the rear 35 as well. But do it right and go with the s35 with 30 spline alloy shafts. Otherwise you will be wondering if it will hold everytime you pull the lever to engage.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 04:43 PM   #12
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Thanx All, looks like a Superior S35 w/C cip eliminator and alloy shafts are the ticket. Will most likely add alloy up front and OX F&R. Appreciate the info.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 06:01 PM   #13
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you will love that setup imo.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 06:03 PM   #14
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Thanx All, looks like a Superior S35 w/C cip eliminator and alloy shafts are the ticket. Will most likely add alloy up front and OX F&R. Appreciate the info.
that's a solid combo
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