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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:02 PM   #91
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So I filled the big gaping hole in my frame up.

Once I figured out exactly where I wanted the shock tower, I marked it and used another tip Blaine gave me.

Drill one 1/4" hole at each corner where the frame tab will come through:


Then run the cut off wheel over it twice to get your 1/4" thick slot.


And if you measured right, a little tab will be left to weld to from the inside


Next I welded up the "Tab" on the inside and the bottom. Once that was done, I beat the edges out to meet up with the frame. It wasn't all that difficult, I did it with a ball peen hammer.

Finally welded it all up!





Here she is at ride height with a shock mounted up. 5" of shock showing and 4" gap between the bump stops. Should be Perfect!


I still have bunches to do.

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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:07 PM   #92
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Im sure there are many people on this board that could knock this whole project out in an afternoon. For someone doing these two things for the first time, plan on a solid couple days I figure I'll have 12 hours of actual work into it when I'm done.

I can bolt stuff up to a Jeep with the best of them, but I have to admit, it feels pretty darn good to make some stuff
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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:14 PM   #93
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No kidding Joe, all your fab work turned out beautiful. I'd be proud of it too, you have inspired me to do essentially the same thing to mine now. Another nice thing about it is that there's nothing really expensive about any of what you did.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:24 PM   #94
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No kidding Joe, all your fab work turned out beautiful. I'd be proud of it too, you have inspired me to do essentially the same thing to mine now. Another nice thing about it is that there's nothing really expensive about any of what you did.
X2 Yeah, I might just have to try this when it warms up around here...
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Your shaft isn't long enough to handle that kind of droop...
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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:29 PM   #95
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Thanks for the great thread on the whole relocation process. I have the tools to do this job and even a plasma cutter for the notching, this will be my next mod for sure. ( I like the notch in the tower for welding great idea ) You have 5inch of shock now, how much did you gain from the relocation?
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Unread 12-27-2009, 07:54 PM   #96
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You have 5inch of shock now, how much did you gain from the relocation?
When I started, I had 3 1/2" up travel on a 10" shock. That was full compression with the bar pins being my final bump stop

As it sits right now, I have 5" of up travel (4" of up travel before it hits the bump stop and 1" of bump stop compression) without running out of shock on a 11 1/2" shock. It will compress to just about the full 5" when one tire is stuffed and the other is drooped out without bottoming out the shock.

The spring perch relocation worked out perfect. The jeep sits at the same ride height but the spring is actually taller up in the frame and straight up and down, if that makes sense. That's where I really gained the extra 1 1/2" up travel even though I added a full inch of bump stop over what I was running before.

I'm hoping the extra up travel, better bump stops and better spring angles will all work out to equal a much better riding rear suspension through the open desert. We'll see. I'll have this wrapped up by Friday so I can head out to JV with the guys and run some trails.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 08:12 PM   #97
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How did you determine what you wanted your final shock length to be?
Well, you are making the upper and lower shock brackets, so you can really make ANY length within reason fit. If you take out your rear springs, shocks and tires then disconnect the swaybar, you can easily see just how far your rear axle actually moves from bump to full droop. I chose the skyjacker hydros for an 8" lifted TJ

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Also, anymore details on the measurements for the height of the shock tower?
I worked from the bottom up. I placed my lower shock pin as high as I could. If I ever decide to buy some bling longer shocks, I can move the lower mount down much easier than I could move the upper mount up.

To work out full bump on one side, you jack that side of the axle up and let the other droop all the way down. (No shocks springs or tires, just bumpstops.) With the shock bolted to the lower mount in this position, your tower height and max angle is literally right there in front of you.

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I just have a hard time visualizing a full-droop estimation with the Jeep on stands. I'm sure it's intuitive to you guys but there's got to be a tip or trick in there somewhere
You jack the jeep up by the rear digg as far up as you can get it, then place fully extended jack stands under the frame right in front of the rear lower control arm mounts. Then lower the jack on the diff. Full droop. Or wait and I'll throw some pics up
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Unread 12-27-2009, 09:48 PM   #98
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Thanks Joe for this enlightening thread. Amazing sometimes how easy something looks when someone else is doing it.

If work doesn't get in the way tomorrow I'm going to meet the boys in JV for a morning run. Gerald has offered me a seat. Just hoping work doesn't call me tonight.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #99
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Well, you are making the upper and lower shock brackets, so you can really make ANY length within reason fit. If you take out your rear springs, shocks and tires then disconnect the swaybar, you can easily see just how far your rear axle actually moves from bump to full droop. I chose the skyjacker hydros for an 8" lifted TJ



I worked from the bottom up. I placed my lower shock pin as high as I could. If I ever decide to buy some bling longer shocks, I can move the lower mount down much easier than I could move the upper mount up.

To work out full bump on one side, you jack that side of the axle up and let the other droop all the way down. (No shocks springs or tires, just bumpstops.) With the shock bolted to the lower mount in this position, your tower height and max angle is literally right there in front of you.



You jack the jeep up by the rear digg as far up as you can get it, then place fully extended jack stands under the frame right in front of the rear lower control arm mounts. Then lower the jack on the diff. Full droop. Or wait and I'll throw some pics up
THANK YOU!!! Right about now I'm really wishing we'd have taken those orders to Balboa
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Your shaft isn't long enough to handle that kind of droop...
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Unread 12-27-2009, 11:12 PM   #100
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Looks good! The only thing I personally don't have to do this is a welder...but I know a few guys that do. I might have to do this soon. I don't have much uptravel on the shocks...maybe 3.5" like you had.

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Unread 12-27-2009, 11:40 PM   #101
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Nice mod. Subscribed.
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Unread 12-28-2009, 12:03 AM   #102
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I venture from the YJ section... Interesting thread.

Ever since doing a 9" swap in my YJ I've had issues with shock travel. I placed the mounts much higher on my 9" than they were on the D35 and I lost 2-3" or more of shock travel. I've honestly never measured it, but enough was lost to say "Dammit!"
I even added the MORE rear shock relocators and it didn't yield as much travel as I thought.

Would this be beneficial to do on a SUA YJ? I know my leafs ride like hell compared to TJ coils so if I do this and there's any added ride comfort I'd be highly surprised. I just want my shock travel back
Hopefully Mrblaine or another member with lots of info can help me.

And FWIW I hope I don't come across as a thread hi-jacker since I;m a YJ driver
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Unread 12-28-2009, 09:50 AM   #103
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Hopefully Mrblaine or another member with lots of info can help me.

And FWIW I hope I don't come across as a thread hi-jacker since I;m a YJ driver
No worries. I use to have a YJ and loved it.
You could always 4 link your YJ
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Unread 12-28-2009, 09:55 AM   #104
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Unread 12-28-2009, 10:08 AM   #105
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When I started, I had 3 1/2" up travel on a 10" shock. That was full compression with the bar pins being my final bump stop
It's looking good! Congrats on cutting your frame with a cutoff wheel.....I can imagine that certainly was interesting trying to get it positioned every which way to get the cuts you needed.


If you feel there is anything you did that is worth adding to the relocation write-up on my site, let me know off-line. We can put together and update, as it were, that expands on the project. Hopefully anyone else doing the mod will benefit from the additional info. Let me know if you want to.

Again....looking good it is!
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