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Unread 05-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #76
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My statement above was in regards to the 6Paks, which, even if you had a JJ small enough, would not work because you don't want to give the 6Paks that much rotational capability.

If you are referring to the Track Bar, however, theoretically, if you had a JJ with the right size shaft and thread, you could (our heim is 0.75-16 X .875). Important to note is the size of the JJ body vs. the heim and the clearance the heim provides in the above pics (notice how close it is to the mount).
Yeah sorry, I was talking about the track bar. Good point about the clearance.

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Unread 05-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #77
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very cool!
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Unread 05-23-2013, 10:00 PM   #78
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BTW, thank you for the challenge. Without that, I wouldn't have taken the time to tear down the rig for these pics.
out of curiosity, is the axle centered at ride height in those pics? How much lift was on that rig? what are the upper and lower control arm lengths (eye to eye)? Trying to compare to my setup.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 02:45 AM   #79
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The Bar Pin Eliminator adds about a 1/4" compared to the stock bar pin and the upper mounting bracket adds about 1.5". Our collapsed measurement of the 12" 6Pak is 13" from eye to eye. Very little is being added to that with the mounting hardware.

In the above pics, with the TJ fully stuffed (without the rubber jounce in place) the distance between the bar pin and the upper shock mount location in the shock tower is 13 3/8". With the stock rubber jounce in, there would be plenty of room for the 6Pak to fully stuff in the front.

The primary reason, IMHO, for anyone to use bump stops is Tire Size. In our kits we provide an adjustable bump stop system. Allowing customers to put everything from ZERO bump stop to 4" of bump stop, depending on their personal need. Our only prescription for bump stop is Tire-Size and fender recommendations. Running 33's with our fenders, no bump stop ever needed... running 37's and stock fenders, you had better bump stop it out.

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Thank you Matsonian!

Zero bum stop is unlikely because 1.75" added to 13" would not quite fit into 13 3/8" (jounce bumper compress fully!).

BUT all in all these dimensions look great!
At ride height with your MC coils it would put the 12" travel shocks approx in the middle of their stroke!

I have to admit now ... the game changer kit for the TJ looks very attractive to me!!!

Sorry for the hard time ... and thanks a lot for your patience !
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Unread 05-24-2013, 05:09 AM   #80
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So if I'm keeping up...
A MC 3.5 lift, MC fenders, a 1" BL, and 1.5" bumps...
12" travel with 37" tires?
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Unread 05-24-2013, 05:48 AM   #81
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So if I'm keeping up...
A MC 3.5 lift, MC fenders, a 1" BL, and 1.5" bumps...
12" travel with 37" tires?
My calcs say 2" bumpstops front and rear due to shocks n springs for one reason or another.....assuming 6pak shocks n mc springs
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Unread 05-24-2013, 07:25 AM   #82
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This thread seems to be mostly about the front trackbar. What about the rear bar for those of us with 4" of lift and a tummy tuck. The corner if the gas tank skid area and it's bolt hits my current JKS bar. I've heard the newer Currie bar clears in this area, curious if the MC rear trackbar clears this area of the gas tank skid.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 07:46 AM   #83
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This thread seems to be mostly about the front trackbar. What about the rear bar for those of us with 4" of lift and a tummy tuck. The corner if the gas tank skid area and it's bolt hits my current JKS bar. I've heard the newer Currie bar clears in this area, curious if the MC rear trackbar clears this area of the gas tank skid.
Plus Id like to know if a TB relocation bracket in the rear is needed, and if that feedback post from MC's site has any merit.......something about proper hardware not coming with the rear TB, plus a poor fit due to not being able to get the correct hardware for it?

Hoping Matson gets back on these questions. Ive been running stock TB's with an OME rear relocation bracket just so I could keep all clearances and not have to bumpstop(well I use the small OME 15mm bumpstops)......but would love to replace the F/R TB's with adjustable aftermarket ones...........
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Unread 05-24-2013, 08:08 AM   #84
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Thank you...

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I will never ship anything with the presumption that it will be returned... in other words no return label included in the package. However, and you can check else where on this very forum, we believe customer service is tantamount to good business and we will happily take back any product that any customer is not 100% happy with.

Here are a couple pics of our TJ Solid Chromoly Front Track Bar on a TJ at full stuff with no coils, no shocks, no bump stops and the rubber in the jounce removed.



The fitment is tight, but it clears.

This particular rig can use a little more tuning on the control arms, you can see from this pic that the jounce is not centered on the bump pad. If it the control arms were adjusted so that they were centered, we'd have more clearance in the front.



BTW, thank you for the challenge. Without that, I wouldn't have taken the time to tear down the rig for these pics.
I just wanted to say thanks.

As a potential customer who is shopping arms, bars and more (for my LJ), you have proven to me that you really care about your products, your rep and (potential) customers. Nope, I don't own any MC yet, and I don't work for 'em either.

Not everybody would rise to the challenge and prove your point.

So, regardless of how this thread wanders (like my stock LJ), I appreciate the show of effort and diligence.

There is a reason why Savvy and now MC are on the top of my list

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Unread 05-24-2013, 08:46 AM   #85
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I used all the OEM hardware with the MC rear trackbar and there were no problems. This was last week.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #86
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I've heard the newer Currie bar clears in this area
With what I believe to be the newer Currie rear bar (and 4" lift and Savvy UA) the closest point of contact is near the middle of the bar. Rubbed ever so slightly on the edge of the middle GTS mounting nut before I adjusted things. It is close out on the corner of the front driver's corner of the GTS and if I put the trackbar mounting bolt through from the front it will hit, but if put through from the back the head clears. Note though that my axle mounting bracket there is a little different than most.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:26 AM   #87
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Plus Id like to know if a TB relocation bracket in the rear is needed, and if that feedback post from MC's site has any merit.......something about proper hardware not coming with the rear TB, plus a poor fit due to not being able to get the correct hardware for it?

Hoping Matson gets back on these questions.
Please refer to post #75 where I answered your questions.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:28 AM   #88
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This thread seems to be mostly about the front trackbar. What about the rear bar for those of us with 4" of lift and a tummy tuck. The corner if the gas tank skid area and it's bolt hits my current JKS bar. I've heard the newer Currie bar clears in this area, curious if the MC rear trackbar clears this area of the gas tank skid.
I am working to get pics of our rear track bar clearance as well.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #89
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This thread seems to be mostly about the front trackbar. What about the rear bar for those of us with 4" of lift and a tummy tuck. The corner if the gas tank skid area and it's bolt hits my current JKS bar. I've heard the newer Currie bar clears in this area, curious if the MC rear trackbar clears this area of the gas tank skid.
Sorry, I was half asleep when I wrote the above question. The area that contacts my current rear trackbar is the forward mounting flange on the gas tank skid and one of the nuts that holds this flange to Jeep. I wish I had a picture to show. It is mid-span on the bar if I recall. The bar actually smacks the end of the bolt and the nut on that bolt. This is with the Savvy GTS.
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Unread 05-24-2013, 09:33 AM   #90
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Please refer to post #75 where I answered your questions.
Oh jeez, never saw that post from last night. TY.
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