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Unread 05-17-2013, 09:29 PM   #1
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Opinions on track bar: Savvy vs metal cloak

I have developed death wobble from my rear end and have sourced it to bad track bar bushing. When I hit a bad bump the rear feels like it is shifting side to side and I have to all but come to stop to regain control. After rave reviews about metal cloaks new suspension I have been deciding between savvy or metal cloak track bar. I am leaning towards metal cloak for new control arms as well so would it be bad to mix the Johnny joint on the track bar and the dura flex joints on the control arms? Also if anyone has any good experience with either I would like to hear it.

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Unread 05-17-2013, 09:33 PM   #2
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Your control arms could care less what joints are on your track bar. Get the track bar that has the best clearances.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 05:59 AM   #3
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I have the front MC track bar. Works good for me..heres a couple pics of the clearance
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Unread 05-18-2013, 06:52 AM   #4
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I have the front MC track bar. Works good for me..heres a couple pics of the clearance
those pics don't tell us jack squat. post full bump pics with specs of bumpstop extension length, control arm lengths, and compressed shock lengths.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 07:51 AM   #5
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those pics don't tell us jack squat. post full bump pics with specs of bumpstop extension length, control arm lengths, and compressed shock lengths.
Do that. You're the first person I've seen post pictures of it.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 08:51 AM   #6
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Better yet, take out the added bumpstop extensions too when stuffing the axle..........fist not needed.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 09:29 AM   #7
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I don't have any bumpstop extensions installed right now, or access to a jack big enough to be able to stuff the axle.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 10:54 AM   #8
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I don't have any bumpstop extensions installed right now, or access to a jack big enough to be able to stuff the axle.
Disconnect sway bar and flex to start... Then when you can get coils out you can get a better idea of proper clearance.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 11:07 AM   #9
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Wow, I loaded up the forum to ask this exact question. I'm going to be buying front and rear and was wondering about the JJ vs heims. Specifically I was wondering about the differences in flex/binding.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 11:10 AM   #10
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Wow, I loaded up the forum to ask this exact question. I'm going to be buying front and rear and was wondering about the JJ vs heims. Specifically I was wondering about the differences in flex/binding.
Under normal parameters, there shouldn't be any binding with the heims or JJ. The JJ will last longer though, especially in a single shear setup. I think I've been having to replace the heim on my front RE trackbar about every two years.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #11
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Yeah if someone can see how much clearance the metal cloak track bar has it would be nice. It is significantly cheaper than savvy's but if savvy's is a superior product I'll have to bite the bullet.
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Mc joints are not used on their tb's- is the durometer too soft? Seems like it would function just like a JJ...
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Mc joints are not used on their tb's- is the durometer too soft? Seems like it would function just like a JJ...
I thought I had read somewhere it had to do with the front frame side being single shear. Don't quote me on it though.
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Unread 05-18-2013, 10:14 PM   #14
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Mc joints are not used on their tb's- is the durometer too soft? Seems like it would function just like a JJ...
The Duroflex joint provides isolation. You don't want that in a track bar, simply not tight enough.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 02:25 AM   #15
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The Duroflex joint provides isolation. You don't want that in a track bar, simply not tight enough.
Well, there ya go! Keeping the axle square is important through the duration of the suspension travel... A JJ or Heim does not deflect nearly as much.
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