[Unlimited04]

Originally Posted by RaggedOleMan

EDIT: You're likely more learned than I on the subject. Nonetheless, it doesn't appear to me that there's ever been any conflict. Am I mistaken?[/B][/COLOR]

click the linky:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/tj-front-adjustable-track-bars-0-3-5-does-yours-hit-fit-738948/index30.html#post8219539

if you haven't got a rub mark with the JKS track bar, then you haven't flexed your jeep or seen full suspension compression.

[IDArmyTJ]

Originally Posted by bobthetj03

I've had the OME 2.5" on for a spell now with no problems. DD most of the time with some occassional weekend wheel'n. Rear track bar relocation bracket is indeed a PITA to install. I kept the factory front track bar and the front is out of center less than 1/4". acceptable for me for now. Had no wear issues.

Awesome to hear that this kit is used on a DD, and works on trips.

Originally Posted by bobthetj03

If you get this package, opt for the OME sport shocks. They have improved the valving and ride charactoristics according to OME.

How do I know if I'm ordering sport shocks?

Unlimited04 and RaggedOleMan, what I'm gathering is that every Jeep is different and some of the fixes for things that may come up are:

Track bar hitting diff: 2" bump stops
Steering is off: steering bracket
Axle is off center: adjustible trackbar

Some good ideas are:
1" MML
1.25" BL
Welding some reinforcements onto my brackets
Thanks for all this info! I'm really just trying to absorb as much info as possible.

[RaggedOleMan]

It's simple, Unlimited04. There are no rub marks because it isn't rubbing. :-) It's just that simple.

Not flexed yet? I suspect that after the trails at Manastsash/Naches, Evans Creek, Elbe Hills among others, on top of 118.9k miles it's been fully flexed on a few occasions...

My position remains the same and my photo's back it up; No conflict between the JKS adj Track Bar and the d30 diff on my heep.

You're experiences may have been different. My experiences don't agree with yours. That doesn't make you wrong, nor does it make me wrong. We've just had different/conflicting results.

[Unlimited04]

Originally Posted by IDArmyTJ

what I'm gathering is that every Jeep is different and some of the fixes for things that may come up are:

Track bar hitting diff: 2" bump stops
Steering is off: steering bracket
Axle is off center: adjustible trackbar

Some good ideas are:
1" MML
1.25" BL

Thanks for all this info! I'm really just trying to absorb as much info as possible.

aftermarket track bar hits stock diff cover = 2" bumpstops - yes. other diff cover might require more bumpstop.
steering will be off after any lift = you need an alignment to adjust toe, not a bracket.
axle is off center = both axles will be off center. thats why you buy F/R adjustable track bars, or use the included OME bracket.

[RaggedOleMan]

Originally Posted by IDArmyTJ

Awesome to hear that this kit is used on a DD, and works on trips.



How do I know if I'm ordering sport shocks?

Unlimited04 and RaggedOleMan, what I'm gathering is that every Jeep is different and some of the fixes for things that may come up are:

Track bar hitting diff: 2" bump stops
Steering is off: steering bracket
Axle is off center: adjustible trackbar

Some good ideas are:
1" MML
1.25" BL

Thanks for all this info! I'm really just trying to absorb as much info as possible.

You've got it, as far as I'm concerned...that said, I'm not among the "experts" on here. Just sharing my experiences. And sometimes they don't agree with the experiences others have had.

As far as ordering your shocks is concerned, I can't say. All I did was order the OME "Heavy" kit, the shocks came with it. Unlimited04 seems to be quite knowledgeable and likely better prepared to answer that. Good luck.

EDIT: The track bar does get quite close from time to time. Enough so that I would think that an aftermarket diff cover that's applied OVER the stock cover would likely result in the rub Unlimited04 was referring to. I have only the stock diff cover on mine so far...

[RaggedOleMan]

Originally Posted by Unlimited04

aftermarket track bar hits stock diff cover = 2" bumpstops - yes. other diff cover might require more bumpstop.
steering will be off after any lift = you need an alignment to adjust toe, not a bracket.
axle is off center = both axles will be off center. thats why you buy F/R adjustable track bars, or use the included OME bracket.

The bracket had nothing in common with the alignment/toe-in setting. It was a function of altered steering shaft geometry, that's all. The M.O.R.E. bracket solved my problem. Evidently it helps others, too, because M.O.R.E. supplies it with it's 1" body lift. Currie doesn't or at least didn't at the time I bought mine. The OP may or may not need the bracket. At least now he knows that it "may" be among his issues, and that's what his post was trying to determine.

The OME rear track bar bracket may have been enough in my case, however, I added 1-1/4" pucks and that puck addition threw my rear alignment out 1/2".

The OP likely won't need an adjustable rear track bar unless he increases the lift by adding pucks. That was my experience, yours may have been different...

[Unlimited04]

Originally Posted by RaggedOleMan

It's simple, Unlimited04. There are no rub marks because it isn't rubbing. :-) It's just that simple.

it happens at FULL COMPRESSION...as in both sides compress, flexing doesn't necessarily show the interference.

Originally Posted by RaggedOleMan

Not flexed yet? I suspect that after the trails at Manastsash/Naches, Evans Creek, Elbe Hills among others, on top of 118.9k miles it's been fully flexed on a few occasions...

don't feel bad, not everybody drives in circumstances where they'll notice.

Originally Posted by RaggedOleMan

My position remains the same and my photo's back it up; No conflict between the JKS adj Track Bar and the d30 diff on my heep.

You're experiences may have been different. My experiences don't agree with yours. That doesn't make you wrong, nor does it make me wrong. We've just had different/conflicting results.

the JKS track bar doesn't clear the stock diff cover, its that simple. if yours doesn't hit, then you have 2" bumpstops, long travel shocks (which act as 2" bumpstops), you've sucked the axle back with adjustable control arms or you haven't seen full compression.

[bobthetj03]

Check this out.

Press Release - New ARB Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport Shocks | Pacific Northwest Backroad Adventures

[IDArmyTJ]

Originally Posted by bobthetj03

Check this out.

Press Release - New ARB Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport Shocks | Pacific Northwest Backroad Adventures

Awesome news! I looked around based on their catalog and can find the shocks individually, but no full kits. Shocks are only out for Toyotas and Range Rovers right now.

I'm going to see if buying shocks, springs and the other hardware will still be in my pricerange.

Edit: After crunching the numbers: buying the sport shocks, springs, tcase washers, and bracket it's about $20 less then buying the kit. Bad news is that the bump stops I'm looking at are $25 ea.

[RaggedOleMan]

Originally Posted by Unlimited04

it happens at FULL COMPRESSION...as in both sides compress, flexing doesn't necessarily show the interference.


don't feel bad, not everybody drives in circumstances where they'll notice.


the JKS track bar doesn't clear the stock diff cover, its that simple. if yours doesn't hit, then you have 2" bumpstops, long travel shocks (which act as 2" bumpstops), you've sucked the axle back with adjustable control arms or you haven't seen full compression.

Mine don't hit. Period.

EDIT; My front factory flares show signs that stuffing the tire has distorted them, popped them up. Doesn't that suggest/confirm that my current set up has compressed fully many times, and that I need additional bumpstops up front? No need for condescension...

[kelso1337]

All this talk about the ADJ. Track bar problem and the OME lift makes me want a different lift.

So its any 2.5'' Suspension lift + JKS adj. front track that causes the rubbing on the front diff?
Who is at fault to cause something like this?
Surely not everyone can be having this problem....

I had my heart set on 2.5'' OME, JKS BL & MML & All JKS adjustable control arms....

Do you think that a more complete suspension set (IE. 3.5'' RE, 3'' BDS, Etc) would work better together. Rather than mixing OME/RC & JKS parts?

[IDArmyTJ]

Originally Posted by kelso1337

All this talk about the ADJ. Track bar problem and the OME lift makes me want a different lift.

So its any 2.5'' Suspension lift + JKS adj. front track that causes the rubbing on the front diff?
Who is at fault to cause something like this?
Surely not everyone can be having this problem....

I had my heart set on 2.5'' OME, JKS BL & MML & All JKS adjustable control arms....

Do you think that a more complete suspension set (IE. 3.5'' RE, 3'' BDS, Etc) would work better together. Rather than mixing OME/RC & JKS parts?

Have you considered Teraflex?

[RaggedOleMan]

Originally Posted by kelso1337

All this talk about the ADJ. Track bar problem and the OME lift makes me want a different lift.

So its any 2.5'' Suspension lift + JKS adj. front track that causes the rubbing on the front diff?
Who is at fault to cause something like this?
Surely not everyone can be having this problem....

I had my heart set on 2.5'' OME, JKS BL & MML & All JKS adjustable control arms....

Do you think that a more complete suspension set (IE. 3.5'' RE, 3'' BDS, Etc) would work better together. Rather than mixing OME/RC & JKS parts?

I've read and heard that about the adjustable track bars, too, and it factored into my lift choices. At the end of the day and after the lift, I had to get a track bar and I went with JKS. My other choice would have been the Currie.

In my case, I haven't experienced the problem/conflict. I don't know why that is. Unlimited04 seems to think I don't wheel hard enough to compress my suspension fully enough to experience the problem, or I have some other component that influences the issue enough that it never arose. I don't really know why, all I know is I've never had the problem and it suits me just fine.

I wheel "most difficult" trails each weekend. I drive to and from the trails. I bought my rig new in 05 and I've put on every one of the 118.9k miles currently on the speedo. I ran open (hard) front and rear until just a few months ago, but the lift was on 2 years ago. Still, no track bar/diff conflicts.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong, all I'm saying is that I've never had the problem.

[lowrollin12]

Great info guys... thanks! OME for ME!

[white305]

Just installed a month and a half ago. Went with zj/lj springs and long travel OME shocks. I put 2 hockey pucks at the lower spring perchs on all four corners. Relocation bracket for the rear trackbar and went with the adjustable jks front track bar. Also put on the OME steering stabilizer. I also picked up some used (great shape) RE control arms off craigslist. Went on a trip with it two weeks ago and drive it every day. Not a single problem. Flex and compression (bumpstop all the way till springs begin to unseat) with no issues. Great choice. I am running 33X12.5