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12-10-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nsjeep
What kind of lift does this Red jeep have?
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I think those are Yokohama Geolanders.
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your money will go farther in College Station.
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12-10-2008, 06:06 PM
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Tire sizes
go to google and type in "tire size calculator" and you can see the outer diameter of metric type tires.
You also need to remember different manufacturers OD will differ. My 32/11.5/15's are like 31.7", but some INTERCO 33" tires have an OD of 33.7"
but a 265/75/16 is closer to a 32" tire than a 31" tire so that guy with the red jeep is wrong in my opinion anyway.
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12-10-2008, 06:10 PM
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width
the "265" is how wide a tire is in millimeters. so a 32/11.5/15 will be a little bit wider than a 265/75/16, but the outer diameter will be pretty close.
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12-10-2008, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmalys
but a 265/75/16 is closer to a 32" tire than a 31" tire so that guy with the red jeep is wrong in my opinion anyway.
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I agree with you. Just for kicks I'll use BFG a/ts as an example but most other big name tires are similar.
245/70r16 = 29.5
30x9.5r15 = 29.5
245/75r16 = 30.5
31x10.5r15 = 30.7
265/75r16 = 31.7
32x11.5r15 = 31.7
285/75r16 = 32.8
33x12.5r15 = 32.7
all sizes straight off their site.
Last edited by NJHCx4xLIFE; 12-10-2008 at 06:20 PM..
Reason: spelling
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12-11-2008, 08:24 AM
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Thank you for the info.
One more questions: Are the adjustable lower control arms required for front and rear? I was crawling thru RC 2.5" thread and read some are having problems with it.
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12-11-2008, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nsjeep
Thank you for the info.
One more questions: Are the adjustable lower control arms required for front and rear? I was crawling thru RC 2.5" thread and read some are having problems with it.
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for SWB, they are ideal. for LWB, probably not. adjustable uppers are actually needed for some lifts to correct pinion angle, so you dont get vibes. adjustable lowers are nice to correct the wheelbase.
*Ideally* they should be on ALL lifted jeeps to correct pinion angles and suspension geometry, but budget constraints force many people to use stock arms.
Personally, I won't lift my Jeep until I can afford everything to do it perfectly right.
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12-11-2008, 11:13 AM
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While I don't want to throw away money. I don't want to do it without all the things required either. So I am looking for a comprehensive list of things that I would need to make it right the first time.
I don't want things breaking on me and vides that I need to troubleshoot later.
So yes if I can't afford everything that is required than I won't start doing it.
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12-11-2008, 11:30 AM
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Try a 255/85/16
at 2-2.5 inches it is considered acceptable to just do coils and shocks youay need a track bar relocation bracket for the rear which ome has for 20 bucks
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12-11-2008, 12:03 PM
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The Kit will be a good start. The only thing I wish my OME kit came with is swaybar discos. The front axle will be off a little bit, but nothing to lose sleep over.
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12-11-2008, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nsjeep
While I don't want to throw away money. I don't want to do it without all the things required either. So I am looking for a comprehensive list of things that I would need to make it right the first time.
I don't want things breaking on me and vides that I need to troubleshoot later.
So yes if I can't afford everything that is required than I won't start doing it.
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a comprehesive 2.5" lift: - springs
- shocks
- adjustable front track bar
- adjustable rear track bar
- steering stabilizer
- wheels with less backspacing
- tires
- front and rear bumpstops
- adjustable front and rear lower control arms
- adjustable front and rear upper control arms
- for non Rubicon TJ/LJs - a SYE and CV shaft
- front sway bar links/quick disconnects for 2.5" lift
- rear sway bar links for 2.5" lift (most people forget about these)
If you want to fit 33s:
- 1" Motor mount lift
- 1" body lift
- Regear
- EBC brake pads and Centric Premium rotors OR preferably, the Vanco big brake kit.
Add a Rokmen tummy tuck, engine skid and gas tank skid plate if you want to really have a comprehesive package.
Some people are probably going to rip this list apart and say you dont need this or that, and they might be right...you don't NEED it, but above is a lift of things to make a comprehesive 2.5" lift kit to bring all steering, suspension and driveline geometry to where they should be, while still providing an exceptional daily driver and very capable off road rig.
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12-11-2008, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited04
a comprehesive 2.5" lift: - springs
- shocks
- adjustable front track bar
- adjustable rear track bar or relocation bracket
- steering stabilizer
- wheels with less backspacing
- tires
- front and rear bumpstops
- adjustable front and rear lower control arms
- adjustable front and rear upper control arms
- for non Rubicon TJ/LJs - a SYE and CV shaft
- front sway bar links/quick disconnects for 2.5" lift
- rear sway bar links for 2.5" lift (most people forget about these)
If you want to fit 33s:
- 1" Motor mount lift
- 1" body lift
Add a Rokmen tummy tuck, engine skid and gas tank skid plate if you want to really have a comprehesive package.
Some people are probably going to rip this list apart and say you dont need this or that, and they might be right...you don't NEED it, but above is a lift of things to make a comprehesive 2.5" lift kit to bring all steering, suspension and driveline geometry to where they should be, while still providing an exceptional daily driver and very capable off road rig.
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I absolutely agree. That's the route I'm going. Even though not a part of the suspension itself, upgraded steering and maybe brakes are great additions.
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12-11-2008, 12:38 PM
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x2 Thats a really good setup that Unlimited04 posted. Granted it's expensive, but your rig would be very capable. I'm working to get the money for my Jeep right now to get all of that stuff. The only thing I'd add on (this really depends on the jeep) is regear. If you keep the stock gears, you'll be hating it. Since I have the 32RH, and do a lot of highway driving, I'm gonna do 3.73's with 33's. With your NV3550, I'd go with 4.88's if you plan on 33's.
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12-11-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepfreak4life7
x2 Thats a really good setup that Unlimited04 posted. Granted it's expensive, but your rig would be very capable. I'm working to get the money for my Jeep right now to get all of that stuff. The only thing I'd add on (this really depends on the jeep) is regear. If you keep the stock gears, you'll be hating it. Since I have the 32RH, and do a lot of highway driving, I'm gonna do 3.73's with 33's. With your NV3550, I'd go with 4.88's if you plan on 33's.
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damn. I can't believe I forgot regear and brakes.
Ok so some additions to my list:
- Regear
- EBC brake pads and Centric Premium rotors OR preferably, the Vanco big brake kit.
btw, this is the route i'm going. already have the armor, BL and MML covered, saving for the list above, and a stroker
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12-11-2008, 12:41 PM
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Dont need anything but a stabilizer is a good idea. I had a 2006 rubicon i installed a 2" lift on and ran 33x12.5 boggers on all day. I did not use the stock wheels though. Get yourself the 3.5" kit a 33x10.5" tire on your stock wheels and you will do just fine
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12-18-2008, 08:54 AM
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15x8 Steelie vs. 15x8 alloy wheel
I will start another thread with this topic.
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