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Unread 09-26-2007, 04:20 PM   #1
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no turn signals!

ok heres the deal. I put in led tail lights in my 04 tj about 2 months ago. I got real tired of the turn signal buzzer clicking like it was on speed so i found a new signal fuse that said it was good for leds, part number ep-27. I put this in and it corrected my erratic flasher. i did notice that it was extremly loud compared to the old one but it worked fine. I never tested my emergency flashers after i put it in but i was on the side of the road helping someone so i clicked them on. it flashed once and then stopped but i thaught nothing of it and kept doing was i was doing. later that night i noticed i had no turn signals or tail lights or brake lights. The flasher button was still down. i clicked it off and now i have tail and brake lights but no turn signals. I replaced the flasher fuse with a new one, i even got the old style and tried it out but they still dont work. i checked the actual power fuse it was fine, and i even put a new one of those in just in case it was bad but no fixy. I am no electrician so i am out of ideas. Is the turn signal switch bad? i dont want to replace it and have it do it again either. what caused this and how do i fix!!!!!??????? please help, thanks ahead of time for the help.

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Unread 09-26-2007, 04:27 PM   #2
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You need a new flasher relay (try EP-26 that says LED on it).. and you also have to replace the fuse behind your glovebox and under the hood. You probably don't have any brake lights either.
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Unread 09-26-2007, 04:29 PM   #3
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i do have brake lights i checked. i replaced the flasher relay twice, they told me at 2 part stores that it was the ep-27 one. and it worked for awhile and then cut off when i hit the emergency flashers and has not worked since.
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Unread 09-26-2007, 04:31 PM   #4
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i couldnt find an under hood fuse that said turn signals and i checked the interior one its fine
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Unread 09-26-2007, 05:05 PM   #5
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My suggestion, go back to incandescants. I went down this road already, there is nothing you can do to make it work. I had LEDs in my tail lights with the correct flasher and nothing ever worked right. When one side blinker was on the other one would blink too. The hazards never worked all I got was a buzzing from the flasher. I even tried those resistors that are suppose to "fix all known problems when switching to LEDs". I even went as far as switch all my lights to LED's thinking it had something to do with having half and half. Ironically when I got fed up with the whole LED thing and started switching everything back to stock I noticed my incandescants were actually brighter than the LED's anyway, which was the reason I originally wanted LEDs. LED's might be cool on the older TJs but Jeep did something to the newer ones to make it where they just plain wont work.

btw, the fuse for the blinkers is behind the glove box, the fuse for the hazards are under the hood. I forget which one but its a 20amp fuse. Also, yes 2004 calls for a EP-27, you can have one of the 3 I tried if you want they're sitting here right next to me. I also tried EP-26 for ****s and grins, that got me no where too.
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Unread 09-26-2007, 05:32 PM   #6
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yeah im just dumb founded that they dont work at all now. ive got tail and brake lights that work awsum but zero blinkers now.
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Unread 09-26-2007, 06:31 PM   #7
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yeah im just dumb founded that they dont work at all now. ive got tail and brake lights that work awsum but zero blinkers now.
It's because you have to replace your relay. I successfully installed LED tail lights and had the same problem as you. I swapped the relay for a EP-26 relay that says LED on it. No problems since..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f20/ep-27-flasher-relay-4-way-flashers-282930/
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Unread 09-27-2007, 04:09 AM   #8
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It's because you have to replace your relay. I successfully installed LED tail lights and had the same problem as you. I swapped the relay for a EP-26 relay that says LED on it. No problems since..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282930
Have you tried your hazards?
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Unread 09-27-2007, 06:03 AM   #9
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Have you tried your hazards?
Yes, they work fine.
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Unread 09-27-2007, 07:58 AM   #10
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My blinkers and stuff work fine. You just need to get the right relay. The led's don't draw enough power to work with the stock one.
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Unread 09-27-2007, 09:27 AM   #11
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thanks everyone, im going to get a new relay today and try it out
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Unread 09-29-2007, 08:29 AM   #12
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You need a relay. LED relay. I had this same issue recently.
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