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Unread 11-07-2006, 08:08 PM   #1
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Need Smoother Ride

Ive had my jeep for 3 years now with Rancho 5000s and MT baja claws, i dont think the ride can get any worse and rougher. Its time for new tires and shocks. Any suggestions on a good soft shock that will smooth the ride out a little bit?


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Unread 11-07-2006, 08:12 PM   #2
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I personally like the James duff shocks $35 a piece. great at slow speeds and at high speeds. What tires are you going to? ATs MTs TSL style?

James duff designed these shocks after racing numerous years in his bronco including the baja 1000 and other places. I met him at a ECBR run when I went with a friend of mine. Really nice guy.

http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/suspension_components.html
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Unread 11-07-2006, 08:12 PM   #3
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Like ProComp's ES-3000 shock, Rancho's R5000 shock has a reputation for being extremely stiff, too stiff for a Wrangler. I'd go with OME (Old Man Emu) or perhaps Doetsch Tech DT-3000 shocks. Most hydraulic shocks ride ok (the ES-3000 and R5000 being two notable exceptions) with a few gas charged shocks like the OME and special Wrangler-only Bilstein 5100 also riding well... but most other gas-charged shocks are just plain too stiff.
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Unread 11-07-2006, 08:14 PM   #4
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Hmmm I'm running OME shocks with the stock Rubi springs and don't care for the ride much. I'm told it would ride much better with different springs though
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Unread 11-08-2006, 04:10 AM   #5
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my DT 3000's are smoother than my superlift, but still kind of a rough ride. i've heard the 8000's are a little better. i've ridden on OME's in a rubi, and it was night and day, but my lift is about 1.5" higher, so i xfer more shock via the control arms. people have said that the RE monotube are comparable to the OME's.
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Unread 11-08-2006, 06:48 AM   #6
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Question for the rough riding crew:
What air pressure are you running in your tires?

I run about 23-24 psi in my 35" MT/R's and can really notice a difference in ride by going just one psi higher.

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Unread 11-08-2006, 07:20 AM   #7
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I put a set of Skyjacker 7000 Hydro shocks on last weekend. The packaging they came in makes me wonder if they are rebadged Rancho 7000s. Other than the box, they have no manufacture identification on them at all. They are towards the lower end of the price range. I've never owned a "normal" car, I've spent my years in vehicles and bikes with pretty stiff suspensions so I'm probably not as sensitive to ride quality as others are but they give me a pretty good ride.

I have to agree about tire pressure being an issue. Many people I've seen complain about a hard ride had their tires over inflated. Several at the PSI (max PSI for Max load) shown on the sidewall. When the pressure was set at a reasonable PSI the ride magically went from bone jarring to smooth.
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Unread 11-08-2006, 08:21 AM   #9
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i am running 26 psi in mine. i could probably take it down a couple, but i'm afraid to under-inflate it. i can't find any place flat for a chalk test in frickin belgium.
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I installed the procomp MX6 adj shocks. They ride better then stock shocks. I hear most of procomp shocks but I can't complain about MX6's. I don't know if it because they are inverted or is it because I can adjust them to suit my needs
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i am running 26 psi in mine. i could probably take it down a couple, but i'm afraid to under-inflate it. i can't find any place flat for a chalk test in frickin belgium.
Belgium doesn't have parking lots?

There is a math process that will do the same thing as the chalk method for you.
On the sidewall of the tire you will find the max load/pressure of the tire.

For an example Iíll use a tire rated at 2270 lbs @ 50 psi and a vehicle that weighs 4850 lbs.

Step 1 - Multiply the max load times 4. This is the maximum weight your four tires can safely carry.
2270 lbs * 4 = 9080 lbs

Step 2 - Divide the weight of the vehicle (placard on driverís door jam) by the number you got in the first step. This is the percent of the max load you are actually carrying on the tires.
4850/9080 = 53%

Step 3 - Multiply the psi stated on the tire for max load by the percentage you got in step 2. This will give you an optimal pressure for you tire on the road.
50 psi * 53% = 27 psi

The chalk test and the math approach will usually give you very close answers.

These methods give you a start point for getting the psi that will give you even tire wear. Start at that point and go up/down a few lbs to get what you want. A few pounds more gives you better mpg. A few pounds down softens the ride more.
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x2 on the MX-6 shocks. I had Procomp ES-3000, rough ride. Night and day difference in ride.
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Belgium doesn't have parking lots?

There is a math process that will do the same thing as the chalk method for you.
On the sidewall of the tire you will find the max load/pressure of the tire.

For an example Iíll use a tire rated at 2270 lbs @ 50 psi and a vehicle that weighs 4850 lbs.

Step 1 - Multiply the max load times 4. This is the maximum weight your four tires can safely carry.
2270 lbs * 4 = 9080 lbs

Step 2 - Divide the weight of the vehicle (placard on driverís door jam) by the number you got in the first step. This is the percent of the max load you are actually carrying on the tires.
4850/9080 = 53%

Step 3 - Multiply the psi stated on the tire for max load by the percentage you got in step 2. This will give you an optimal pressure for you tire on the road.
50 psi * 53% = 27 psi

The chalk test and the math approach will usually give you very close answers.

These methods give you a start point for getting the psi that will give you even tire wear. Start at that point and go up/down a few lbs to get what you want. A few pounds more gives you better mpg. A few pounds down softens the ride more.
belgium has parking lots. and highways too. that's not my problem. i can't find a flat one i guess i'll have to do the math. thanks for that, i never even thought of it...
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Unread 11-08-2006, 10:32 AM   #14
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I switched from stock to OME's and it made a big improvement in ride quality.
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Unread 11-08-2006, 10:56 AM   #15
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i am running 26 psi in mine. i could probably take it down a couple, but i'm afraid to under-inflate it. i can't find any place flat for a chalk test in frickin belgium.
I just can't resist. If your looking for flat just drive up to Holland. I remember lots of very flat land from my visit to Eindhoven in 97.

Seriously though, the math route works really well. The hard part is getting an accurate weight on the Jeep. A visit to the truck stop may be in your future.
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