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Unread 03-31-2014, 06:01 PM   #1
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Need help figuring out the right parts...

I'm trying to get all the pieces together before I start the work, so I can do it all at the same time.

I have an '06 LJ Rubicon.

The only thing I've purchased so far is 3" AEV/Nth-Degree springs.

Question #1
I was planning on getting Bilstein 5100s, but not sure which part number to get?

Question 1.5
How much bump stop I'll need with them?


Here's my build list: http://goo.gl/xMLgtD

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Unread 04-01-2014, 08:44 AM   #2
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Hoping to catch a deal on shocks.. Anyone know or is it the sort of thing I need to learn how to measure and measure things once the springs are on?
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Unread 04-01-2014, 08:51 AM   #3
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I'm trying to get all the pieces together before I start the work, so I can do it all at the same time.

I have an '06 LJ Rubicon.

The only thing I've purchased so far is 3" AEV/Nth-Degree springs.

Question #1
I was planning on getting Bilstein 5100s, but not sure which part number to get?

Question 1.5
How much bump stop I'll need with them?

Here's my build list: http://goo.gl/xMLgtD
That's one heck of a list!!! I like the ride of ome shocks personally but bumps top is going to depend on what shocks you do decide on.
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Unread 04-01-2014, 09:32 AM   #4
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That's one heck of a list!!! I like the ride of ome shocks personally but bumps top is going to depend on what shocks you do decide on.
Yeah I'm trying to figure out the right part numbers for the Bilsteins to make sure I get the ideal length for the springs I've purchased. Then I'll need to figure out bump stops that go with them.
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Unread 04-01-2014, 09:46 AM   #5
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Yeah I'm trying to figure out the right part numbers for the Bilsteins to make sure I get the ideal length for the springs I've purchased. Then I'll need to figure out bump stops that go with them.
I was gonna pick some up from kolak a while back but decided that I would actually lose travel by switching to Bilsteins, but the best thing you can do is pm him and he'll get you setup right
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I'm trying to get all the pieces together before I start the work, so I can do it all at the same time.

I have an '06 LJ Rubicon.

The only thing I've purchased so far is 3" AEV/Nth-Degree springs.

Question #1
I was planning on getting Bilstein 5100s, but not sure which part number to get?

Question 1.5
How much bump stop I'll need with them?


Here's my build list: http://goo.gl/xMLgtD
You can get the Bilsteins for 3" of Lift and then cycle the suspension and measure for bump stops. If you're leaving your shocks in the stock mounting locations, those shocks should work for you.

Let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like a quote!

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Unread 04-01-2014, 11:49 AM   #7
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I have a very similar spreadsheet haha. make sure you get an angled rear track bar housing bracket for your pinion angle

Edit: wait...LJ...you may not need that
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Unread 04-01-2014, 12:34 PM   #8
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You can get the Bilsteins for 3" of Lift and then cycle the suspension and measure for bump stops. If you're leaving your shocks in the stock mounting locations, those shocks should work for you.

Let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like a quote!

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I'm worry those aren't the best ones for my lift.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:37 AM   #9
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Why not just get the Currie bumpstop kit?

Rear driveshaft is going to be around $300-$350

5100s should be around $200


Don't forget to factor in a few things:

1. Body Lift, can be ordered with the GTS or UA,
2. MML don't remember if the UA comes with these or not, or if it still requires it or not. I'm thinking it does.
3. TCase shifter, more than likely a cable shifter.
4. Possible exhaust modification, CC, or muffler. Not sure if you'll run into any clearance issue with your exhaust. I had to run a shorter muffler in my TJ with my TT.
5. Fan shroud movement not really a cost, just don't forget about it.
6. Why are you getting the aluminum rear flare mounting kit? I'm assuming this is because you're getting savvy rear corners, I didn't see it on the attached sheet.
7. Assuming you are getting savvy corners, and not metalcloak you could also run the savvy sliders.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 10:37 AM   #10
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Why not just get the Currie bumpstop kit?

Rear driveshaft is going to be around $300-$350

5100s should be around $200


Don't forget to factor in a few things:

1. Body Lift, can be ordered with the GTS or UA,
2. MML don't remember if the UA comes with these or not, or if it still requires it or not. I'm thinking it does.
3. TCase shifter, more than likely a cable shifter.
4. Possible exhaust modification, CC, or muffler. Not sure if you'll run into any clearance issue with your exhaust. I had to run a shorter muffler in my TJ with my TT.
5. Fan shroud movement not really a cost, just don't forget about it.
6. Why are you getting the aluminum rear flare mounting kit? I'm assuming this is because you're getting savvy rear corners, I didn't see it on the attached sheet.
7. Assuming you are getting savvy corners, and not metalcloak you could also run the savvy sliders.
1. BL. Ordering with UA
2. MML. Ordering with UA
3. Cable Shifter. Was going to order with UA too, but because of issues with my stock one, ordered last night with Rear Trac Bar.
4. Exhaust Relocation. Plan to take it to a muffler shop when the UA goes in and have them tuck it up higher.
5. Fan Shroud. Shouldn't have to move it with the MML.
6. Fear Flare mounting Kit. Because I'm not getting corner guards, and I am getting MetalCloak 6" Rear Flares.
7. Running the MetalCloak Rocker Rail. Is there something wrong with it? Or you just saying Savvy is cheaper?
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Unread 04-03-2014, 10:41 AM   #11
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5. Fan Shroud. Shouldn't have to move it with the MML.
This may or may not be true. For some (myself included), the 0.25" difference has been enough to create a little rubbing of the fan on the shroud. Easily fixed by slotting the holes on the shroud.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 10:58 AM   #12
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This may or may not be true. For some (myself included), the 0.25" difference has been enough to create a little rubbing of the fan on the shroud. Easily fixed by slotting the holes on the shroud.
Gotcha.. thanks for the heads up. I was originally going to go with 1" for both MML and BL.. but from what I understand the UA has mounting points on the MML for the UA.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 11:13 AM   #13
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1. BL. Ordering with UA
2. MML. Ordering with UA
3. Cable Shifter. Was going to order with UA too, but because of issues with my stock one, ordered last night with Rear Trac Bar.
4. Exhaust Relocation. Plan to take it to a muffler shop when the UA goes in and have them tuck it up higher.
5. Fan Shroud. Shouldn't have to move it with the MML.
6. Fear Flare mounting Kit. Because I'm not getting corner guards, and I am getting MetalCloak 6" Rear Flares.
7. Running the MetalCloak Rocker Rail. Is there something wrong with it? Or you just saying Savvy is cheaper?
The part number you listed for the rear flare mount kit is actually for their LJ corners.

http://www.metalcloak.com/Aluminum-L.../2435%20al.htm

That's why I was confused.

If you're not going to get corners, you just need the mounting plates and the flares.

As for the rockers it doesn't really matter which set you get. If you do end up running metalcloak corners, then by all means get their sliders, as they'll integrate easily.

If however you decide on going with someone else's corners in my case I'm going with the savvy AL corners, and I'll also run their rockers. I'll just need to buy their generic flare adapter kit.

http://www.metalcloak.com/Generic-Co...-p/2910-al.htm


Build thread sounds good so far.

Don't forget some sort of speedo correction.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 11:13 AM   #14
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but from what I understand the UA has mounting points on the MML for the UA.
Early versions did, but it sounds like they are reworking it to longer be dependent on that.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 11:45 AM   #15
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I'll just give Savvy a call before I order the UA then. Thanks for the heads up again!
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