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Unread 07-18-2010, 01:16 PM   #16
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the 94 and up Mustangs are 5 on 4.5. Earlier ones are 4 lug. I think they are a little shorter then the explorer. You can upgrade the shafts because I believe they came 27. Im going to say get on out of a explorer to save yourself the trouble. You will also need to weld the brackets on the 8.8 and have them perfect.
For the time and money you are going to sink into the 8.8 to get it right, just order it done and have it shipped to your house.

I am using my stock ds right now. No sye or adj uppers either. But yes, you will need them as I do. I am just trying to put some cash away to get all three.

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Unread 07-18-2010, 01:17 PM   #17
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Also I was thinking of going for the 4.56 but the more I search the forums, it seems that there a few people running 3 spd = 4.88. But I've been told that's too much for my trans??

Any thoughts on that? I also can't seem to find any hp D30 and if I buy the G2 fully assemblied axles ex. from 4wd or something for the front/back its about $2400 each...
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Unread 07-18-2010, 01:20 PM   #18
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Also I was thinking of going for the 4.56 but the more I search the forums, it seems that there a few people running 3 spd = 4.88. But I've been told that's too much for my trans??

Any thoughts on that? I also can't seem to find any hp D30 and if I buy the G2 fully assemblied axles ex. from 4wd or something for the front/back its about $2400 each...

With the auto trans, it seems the gear of choice is 4.56. For the manual 4.88s is the gear of choice.

I ordered my HPD30/8.8 for $2,100 shipped.

Can you post the link to the G2 axles? $2,400 IMO is a good deal if they are fully assembled. Because when I was doing my research, I couldn't find a G2 axle for under 4 grand a piece.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 07:54 PM   #19
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so it seems the 4.56 is the gear of choice; atleast that is solved. The G2 fully assemblied are here:

Front: Dana Model 44 Front Axle Assembly by G2 and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware-RH3
Rear: Dana Model 44 Rear Axle Assembly by G2 and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware-RH3
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Unread 07-18-2010, 08:03 PM   #20
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Also if I were to order a Ford 8.8 & HP D35 from the eastcoastgearsupply.com site what options would you get and which would you not get.

I'm going to want the install to be as simple as possible; I will have a shop installing. Also if I were to swap my current stock D35c/D30 setup with the new Ford 8.8/HP D30 combo; what else will I need to buy??

Also what would be the max tire size you would run with these? I plane on only running 35's, but then I began to think my R.E. 3.5' lift is not high enough for 35 tires... Any opinion on that??
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Unread 07-18-2010, 08:41 PM   #21
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Unread 07-18-2010, 10:42 PM   #22
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[QUOTE=2003X;9765082]I was running a setup D30/D35 with 3.07s and 35" Toyo MTs. I recently went to HPD30 and Ford 8.8 with 4.88s and couldn't be happier.
I personally wouldn't dump any money into the D35. I was going to do the same thing, and had the HPD30 and Ford 8.8 shipped to my house for 2 grand. Same price it was gonna cost me to re-gear the D30/D35.

Do it right the first time and get a stronger rear axle. You can get the 8.8 shipped to your house for around $1,500 and just bolt it in, if that's the route you want to take.



Where did you order an 8.8 delivered for $1500?

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Unread 07-18-2010, 10:54 PM   #23
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I was running a setup D30/D35 with 3.07s and 35" Toyo MTs. I recently went to HPD30 and Ford 8.8 with 4.88s and couldn't be happier.
I personally wouldn't dump any money into the D35. I was going to do the same thing, and had the HPD30 and Ford 8.8 shipped to my house for 2 grand. Same price it was gonna cost me to re-gear the D30/D35.

Do it right the first time and get a stronger rear axle. You can get the 8.8 shipped to your house for around $1,500 and just bolt it in, if that's the route you want to take.



Where did you order an 8.8 delivered for $1500?

Never mind, found it, thanks.
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Unread 07-20-2010, 07:49 PM   #24
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Sorry meant HP D30.. KnuckelHead.

Looks like the Ford 8.8 seems like a good option with the HP D30 too.

As mentioned above though. The additional options they offer I am not 100% on. How are their used shafts?

Any suggestions on which options are worth it and which aren't? Same for the HP D30.

Also what other upgrades are going to be required for the ford 8.8 conversion? Will I need anything like a SYE, CV shaft etc.
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Sorry meant HP D30.. KnuckelHead.

Looks like the Ford 8.8 seems like a good option with the HP D30 too.

As mentioned above though. The additional options they offer I am not 100% on. How are their used shafts?

Any suggestions on which options are worth it and which aren't? Same for the HP D30.

Also what other upgrades are going to be required for the ford 8.8 conversion? Will I need anything like a SYE, CV shaft etc.
I got the used shaft option for the 8.8 and I am happy with it.
For the HPD30, I re-used my stock shafts from my LPD30.

You will need a sye/ds/adj uppers.

I am running it with stock ds and stock uppers, but need to get sye soon.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 05:59 PM   #26
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Wow so on top of the cost of the HP D30 & Ford 8.8, I'm going to have to add a SYE, CV DS, and Adjustable Upper Control Arms??? Just to run 35's is getting $$$$.

I wonder how the uppers and all will affect my R.E. 3.5 lift??
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I was running a setup D30/D35 with 3.07s and 35" Toyo MTs. I recently went to HPD30 and Ford 8.8 with 4.88s and couldn't be happier.
I personally wouldn't dump any money into the D35. I was going to do the same thing, and had the HPD30 and Ford 8.8 shipped to my house for 2 grand. Same price it was gonna cost me to re-gear the D30/D35.

Do it right the first time and get a stronger rear axle. You can get the 8.8 shipped to your house for around $1,500 and just bolt it in, if that's the route you want to take.

Question 1: $1,750 for all 5 I guess is a good deal. I paid $1,200 just for the Toyos, and $500 for rims.
Question 2: Get stronger rear axle and go 4.88s. http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/ is where I ordered mine.
Question 3: Keep the TJ.
Really? I can get the 8.8 from them for 1225. But that's using used components and factory LSD.
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Really? I can get the 8.8 from them for 1225. But that's using used components and factory LSD.
I don't know what your trying to say? Depending on the options you want the price will fluctuate.

Right, 1225 + 250 to ship, so like I said, around $1,500.
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Wow so on top of the cost of the HP D30 & Ford 8.8, I'm going to have to add a SYE, CV DS, and Adjustable Upper Control Arms??? Just to run 35's is getting $$$$.

I wonder how the uppers and all will affect my R.E. 3.5 lift??
35s aren't cheap to build for..
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I don't know what your trying to say? Depending on the options you want the price will fluctuate.

Right, 1225 + 250 to ship, so like I said, around $1,500.
Sorry I wasn't very clear. I was trying to say you could get it cheaper, but I didn't realize you were including shipping so it doesn't matter.
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