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Unread 10-09-2008, 07:54 PM   #1
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"Manual transmission fluid change"

My local jeep dealer told me to use 10W-30 oil in my 97 TJ's manual transmission. The service advisor said Jeep put out a technical supplement a few years ago advising to use 10W-30 oil in the manual transmissions, which will aleviate the rough shifting. I changed the fluid in my tranny to 10W-30, and it is shifting much smoother, but there is alot more transmission noise. Has anyone used 10W-30 in their manual transmission? I just want to make sure I'm not going to have problems with premature wear from the 10W-30.

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Unread 10-09-2008, 08:57 PM   #2
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For years, the best fluid for AX-5 and AX-15 TJ transmissions has been Redline MT90. Some of us have been using it for almost 10 years. It is well documented that it runs great in the AX series manual transmission. It has the proper additives for the tranny and does produce the problems you mentioned.

Besides....none of the AX transmissions are under factory warranty any longer....does DC care if you kill yours by using engine oil?
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Unread 10-09-2008, 09:14 PM   #3
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Rule #1 NEVER believe a dealership...

When I had a manual I switched to Redline MT90 (Picked it up at a local race shop) and it fixed all my problems (same as yours). I'd spend the extra money for piece of mind because there is only one way you are going to find out if using 10w30 actually works or not...it is just not a risk I'm willing to take.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 04:42 AM   #4
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Welcome Redline used here also.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 04:46 AM   #5
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Redline MT90 here. Got it from Summit Racing.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 05:08 AM   #6
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Getting ready to change the fluid in my 2003 Rubicon and am interested in hearing what is the best fluid to use in the NV3550.

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Unread 10-10-2008, 05:56 AM   #7
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Getting ready to change the fluid in my 2003 Rubicon and am interested in hearing what is the best fluid to use in the NV3550.

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I've recently changed to Royal Purple Synchromax. No better, no worse. Amsoil is also highly regarded.

On another note - I was told years ago (my cousin is a DC mechanic) that DC's Engineers recommended Mobil 1 accross the board. Yes, engine, tranny, and tcase. There was no way that I was going to try it in anything other than the engine though. I'll stick with products that have been proven through years of use.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 06:21 AM   #8
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Redline MT-90 is the way to go. I changed the fluid in mine with Valvoline Syn-power full synthetic 75w90 then got to reading on this forum that a GL-5 lubricant is not the way to go in the AX5-AX15 transmissions. I sent a note to Valvoline regarding transmission usage and they replied that the additives they use will not attack the yellow metals (syncros). I dumped it anyway and put in the MT-90. The transmission is not near as notchy, although when cold, it feels like there is a hook on the gears between 1-2 and 2-3. If you care to double clutch, it is very smooth. My Jeep shows 135,000+ on the clock, so I'm sure there is plenty of wear in the transmission.

Back to the OP, I went to the DC dealer to get the "special" AX transmission fluid. I had a DC part number that I picked up off the web. The parts guy said the number had changed to a new number. He looked up the cross reference and eventually came back to the parts counter with a quart of DC 10w30 motor oil. I opted to change it to the Valvoline Syn-power 75w90, then dumped that for the Redline.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 07:26 AM   #9
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is it hard to change the tranny fluid? how do you do so and how much fluid?
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Unread 10-10-2008, 08:01 AM   #10
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is it hard to change the tranny fluid? how do you do so and how much fluid?
3 quarts or so.It will come out of the fill plug so you can't really overfill it. I rigged up a funnel about 12" long so it didn't pour all over the skid.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 07:24 PM   #11
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I changed mine last week. i used redline mtl , its a little thinner than the mt 90. It has really smoothed out my shifts . stus tj web sight has good on this.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 08:25 PM   #12
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I'm gonna try Rotella 15w-40 and see how I like it. If that doesn't work then I am going to do what everyone else does and run Redline.
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Unread 10-12-2008, 07:09 PM   #13
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Thanks. I'm going to drain the 10W-30 and fill er up with Redline MT90. Hopefully that will quiet the tranny down and help it shift smoother.
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Unread 10-12-2008, 07:21 PM   #14
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Thanks. I'm going to drain the 10W-30 and fill er up with Redline MT90. Hopefully that will quiet the tranny down and help it shift smoother.
If you do live in Colorado, I would be inclined to use either Redline MTL or a mix of MTL and MT-90.

I've used straight MTL here in Phoenix and the 1-2 shift in cooler weather (we barely get to freezing a couple of days per year) disappears.....with MT-90, I still had some 1-2 issues but nothing like the factory lubricant caused. MTL is a bit lighter weight fluid.

Just a suggestion. You can't go wrong with either one, in my opinion.

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Unread 10-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #15
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Got alittle gear noise in 3rd going to change oil .. synthetic is way to go ...??? or I see redline...
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