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Unread 04-04-2012, 11:22 AM   #151
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Nothing specific yet. I was convinced I was going with AEV's shock shifter kit yesterday. But then I came across this mod. I have to say it looks absolutely brilliant. I've officially changed my mind. I'm installing my Under Armor next month so I know ill have to deal with axle rotation and spring problems. I just bumped it to subscribe. That's all. I'm sure I will have some questions soon though.

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Unread 04-20-2012, 01:35 AM   #152
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No bolt ons, huh, Mudb8? If not, can I still send a SASE for the template? BTW, thanks for sharing, looks like something I want to build into my current plans.
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Unread 04-20-2012, 05:40 AM   #153
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No bolt ons, huh, Mudb8? If not, can I still send a SASE for the template? BTW, thanks for sharing, looks like something I want to build into my current plans.
I am interested in a bolt on set too. I don't have the tools to make them myself but would really like to have a set.
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Unread 04-25-2012, 09:27 AM   #154
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As for bolt on, Metalcloak just recently introduced their long travel shocks. Pretty cool design but 400$ a piece. Worth looking in to though for sure
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Unread 04-25-2012, 12:38 PM   #155
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http://www.metalcloak.com/TJ-LJ-Wran...Kit-p/7151.htm

There's the link for the suspension lift that includes those new shocks
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Unread 04-25-2012, 01:26 PM   #156
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Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but if you're trying to move the bottom shock mount over, Clayton has a pretty sweet design ready to go for you... website linkage

I like how it mounts directly to the back of the CA bracket. Not trying to take away from mudb8's thread, just posting this for all the not so do-it-yourselfers. It still needs some welding... but that's not too scary.
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Unread 05-18-2012, 11:11 PM   #157
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I have the mounts on CAD now and have them burnt and bent for me as needed! haven't had time to make em bolt on yet but Its always on my mind.


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Unread 07-25-2012, 01:38 PM   #158
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Nothing specific yet. I was convinced I was going with AEV's shock shifter kit yesterday. But then I came across this mod. I have to say it looks absolutely brilliant. I've officially changed my mind. I'm installing my Under Armor next month so I know ill have to deal with axle rotation and spring problems. I just bumped it to subscribe. That's all. I'm sure I will have some questions soon though.
I'm curious as to why you liked MudB8s design better than AEV. With AEV clearancing out all of their TJ stuff I picked up a set of their shock shifters in haste. I really wasn't looking for shock shifters, but I needed a way to fit a 1" longer shock on my Jeep. I haven't read this thread thouroughly yet, so I might find the answer upon closer review. But was their anything in particular that made you decide to go with MudB8 instead of AEV. Maybe I will need to return my AEV shifters. I'd hate to install the wrong ones.
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Unread 07-25-2012, 09:03 PM   #159
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I just took the time to thoroughly read through this thread again. Some good stuff here. Like others I would have loved to see a bolt on option. I hate the idea of cutting off my factory stuff and I can't weld. So this mod will start to cost me more after I hire a welder. (not to mention I did a rush purchase of an AEV when I saw they were out of production and didn't know if Mudb8 was selling prebuilt units)

I did have a lot of questions and thoughts during my reading. Like others, I have been concerned about the top mount. So I layed under my Jeep for awhile looking at it. It seems to me that it wouldn't take much angle to help with any bind the top bushing would experience. My initial redneck thought was to just throw a couple of washers under the bar pin. Obviously that wouldn't be a final solution. But couldn't you fab up a simple bar pin eliminator type of system that set the bar pin at an angle? You could do something like that recessed Teraflex barpin eliminator but with one side tuck above the hole and the other side down near the stock mounting point. Or even a more simple design with both ends of the BPE below the original mounting point but at an angle. I realize that this would defeat some of the extra shock length but it might help with any bind. I'm surprise that Lupinsea didn't come up with something a little simpler. Let alone AEV. That whole upper bracket seems like it is more complex than it needed to be, just to put a little angle on the bar pin mount. But following Lupinseas thoughts on the mount I feel some comfort that the AEV mounts might be ok to have.

So this brings me to my question for Mudb8. Since I already ordered the AEV setup, how different is the lower mount than what you are doing? If I was to decide that I needed more extension could I use the AEV lower mount and ditch the top mount? Would that be more or less equivalent to what you are doing? I realize you probably could have made one for me a lot cheaper, but I have a certain amount of trust in AEV engineering so I jumped to get one when I realized they would all be gone soon. There were none at AEV, none at Northridge and only 2 left at Quadratech when I ordered mine. I guess I am just wondering if you are mounting your lower mounts at a different angle than AEV does due to the top mount. Or will I have more or less the same lower mount setup. So I wouldn't need the top mount if you dont.
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Unread 08-31-2012, 07:48 AM   #160
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How could i get a pair?
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Unread 10-03-2012, 10:09 AM   #161
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I am just catching up on this mod and after reading the 11 pages did not see any mention of rear droop steer from the additional travel on short arm suspensions after using long travel shocks. Is this an issue and are there newer ways of accomplishing this that make better sense; e.g., Nth Degree Mobility Shock Shifter kit or a Poly Performance relocation kit?
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Unread 10-03-2012, 11:05 PM   #162
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I am just catching up on this mod and after reading the 11 pages did not see any mention of rear droop steer from the additional travel on short arm suspensions after using long travel shocks. Is this an issue and are there newer ways of accomplishing this that make better sense; e.g., Nth Degree Mobility Shock Shifter kit or a Poly Performance relocation kit?
Nth relocators do not offer any additional travel benifits. The SS relocates the shock angle. The longer axle mounts give back the 2" the upper relocation brackets loose. Nth 6" lifts still run 9.75 " travel shocks. Simply relocating and lengthening the lowers alone gives you the ability to run 11" balanced travel on 2.5" lifts. Like a skykacker h7063.

Rear steer gets pretty evident when the downtravel is so much the springs will fall out with short arms. When the travel is balanced it is not really noticeable and does not effect driveability.
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Unread 10-05-2012, 10:00 AM   #163
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I would think that I need to find a shock that simply does not limit travel in either direction, regardless of where I stand on an up/down travel ratio as long as I correctly use bump stops and limit straps.
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Unread 11-10-2012, 01:59 PM   #164
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mudb8, are you selling those mounts? I'd like to buy a set if you are... I'm doing an 8.8 and hp30 swap on my tj and these look like they should give another 2-3" or so clearance over the stock location and save a little fab time for me, haha.

Also, thanks for the great thread, this one and the H&R 1" spring thread are going to help empty my pockets for a bit!

Looking at doing the H&R 1" springs and dropping the lower shock mounts 2-3" front and rear to shoehorn some longer shocks in, shooting for 1" more up and down travel over stock shocks.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 11:09 AM   #165
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Reviving an old thread here. What are you guys doing for the top bracket? Last summer I purchased the AEV shock shifter kit. When using their setup I actually lost an inch of uptravel. I like the setup but I'd like to gain some travel back. So I was thinking about going back to the stock location somehow. But using the stock location looks like its just going to bind too much. So I thought about using a bar pin eliminator or something that turned the shock 90*. Then it wouldn't bind at ride height, but I have concerns it might bind when the axle travels through its motions. So what are you guys using up on top?
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