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post #31 of 368 Old 10-21-2009, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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and where exactly would i be sending this envelope

I'm not enough of a geek to figure out how to put it in a pdf you could just print to actual size.... so ya, send a self addressed, stamped envelope to Dave@rob's or to..

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my kids trace the pattern on the self addressed envelope and stick it back in the mail..

I usually have a few sets ready to go, but that'll cost ya... I havent' had time to make another batch for several weeks, I still gotta get alexia's cut out....


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post #32 of 368 Old 10-22-2009, 09:07 AM
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I still gotta get alexia's cut out....
Don't forget I can send them out for her too. Also, if you get me a pattern, I can scan it and post it up on the boards here.

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just out of curiosity, how much does a set of the brackets cost?

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Are they at any risk of being ripped off since they're lower, etc? It looks like a good mod. This is for rears only, correct?

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Are they at any risk of being ripped off since they're lower, etc? It looks like a good mod. This is for rears only, correct?
yep, the rear, the front is slightly more involved...

I use 1/4" 3x2" tube for the mounts even tho 3/16" works great, you'll bend the axle before it rips off or bends, provided it's properly welded.

they are well protected behind the ca's and can be redrilled higher up the mount and the lower unused portion cut off, for custom fit and or high clearance.

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Where did you source you shock studs? Junkyard or did you buy the somewhere?

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Where did you source you shock studs? Junkyard or did you buy the somewhere?
2wd chevy upper front, or 4x4 upper rear mounts.....

I also use 3.25x 5/8" grade 8 or better bolts. the stock chevy mounts are just quick and easy.

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Nice work.

I added a link to this thread in the FAQ.

My rear, lower shock mounts are very similar. We figured out the same thing you did when setting up a couple 8.8s.
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B8, I know this thread has been quiet for a while, but I read through the whole thread and didn't see that you change anything about the upper mounts, true? Also, how much extra travel did you gain with the high clearance mounts? How much for the long travel lower mounts if I wanted a pair? This is the next mod I do to my jeep after adjustable control arms including front shock mount extension using a F-150 or f-250 shock mount. Why can't the money tree grow faster?

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B8, I know this thread has been quiet for a while, but I read through the whole thread and didn't see that you change anything about the upper mounts, true? Also, how much extra travel did you gain with the high clearance mounts? How much for the long travel lower mounts if I wanted a pair? This is the next mod I do to my jeep after adjustable control arms including front shock mount extension using a F-150 or f-250 shock mount. Why can't the money tree grow faster?

One thing I'll point out is, useable travel doesn't come from taking away uptravel with high clearance mounts.

I use these on the uppers with small bodied shocks, a 1" BL is required for them to fit since they fit up through the square hole of the stock upper shock location and use the stock shock bolts to secure them... They give the suspension another inch of uptravel and or the ablity to reduce bumpstop extension length by an inch.



The high clearance mounts I make match the stock location on the axle as far as travel is concerned. The shocks swing outboard from the stock location and land on the relocated mount. which can end up in the correct position for a full outboard later on.

I can e-mail you a pattern for the Long Travel mounts, DBBD1 took care of putting the pattern in a PDF form a while back, which you can make for about 10 bucks and a little grinding. They are also adjustable, you drill the mounting hole where you want it and cut off the rest if it's not used. PM me if you want them made, I pretty much only sell mounts I also install, I just don't have the time to make a bunch of them at one time to sell.

as for the front shocks, how much longer are you looking to go...
this is an easy option for a couple inches... basicly 12" travel shocks, good with about 3" or more of lift with 2" bumpstop extension or 10" travel shocks (15.5" collapsed) on stock bumpstops, provided you have the tire clearance to keep them out of the sheet metal and most importantly, the Track Bar clearance of the differential/cover/Tie Rod. The pic is nriver's



I made towers for mine, mostly due to having blown out & bent shocks, lots of crap laying around including a pair of shocks that were to long, and no money to spend.
Don't forget, My fenders are highlined, a stock TJ doesn't have the room to do this without hackin the inner fender.




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My extended pics

Not fully extended IIRC


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I did not like this setup and moved on.

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mudb8, I've been thinking of hacking the front shock upper mount off at some point - probably when I go Highline. I'd extend them up 3" or so, and run N66L style shocks with 1" bumpstop or less, whatever I need to clear the *special* track bar & 35s . trying to keep roughly 50/50 or 60/40 downtravel/uptravel ratio with short arms, figure this will work well for what i do....washboard roads, forest service roads, moderate rock crawling and the occassionally hardcore colorado/moab trails.

Does OME make shocks with the same valving, extended and collapsed lengths as the N66L, but in eye/eye configuration instead of eye/stud ? I could use bronco towers if they do...otherwise I'd have to make something for the studs....which brings me to the next question - what size is the hole needed for the studs & bushing? 1/2"?

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I use these on the uppers with small bodied shocks, a 1" BL is required for them to fit since they fit up through the square hole of the stock upper shock location and use the stock shock bolts to secure them... They give the suspension another inch of uptravel and or the ablity to reduce bumpstop extension length by an inch.

And where can we find those? Would those work for most everyone?

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And where can we find those? Would those work for most everyone?
Yep Most everyone that has a Body Lift!...

I make em as I use em, or you can get them from Tera.

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mudb8, I've been thinking of hacking the front shock upper mount off at some point - probably when I go Highline. I'd extend them up 3" or so, and run N66L style shocks with 1" bumpstop or less, whatever I need to clear the *special* track bar & 35s . trying to keep roughly 50/50 or 60/40 downtravel/uptravel ratio with short arms, figure this will work well for what i do....washboard roads, forest service roads, moderate rock crawling and the occassionally hardcore colorado/moab trails.

Does OME make shocks with the same valving, extended and collapsed lengths as the N66L, but in eye/eye configuration instead of eye/stud ? I could use bronco towers if they do...otherwise I'd have to make something for the studs....which brings me to the next question - what size is the hole needed for the studs & bushing? 1/2"?

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Nothing works better than a 50/50 travel ratio, no matter what you do. not many springs have much over 6" downtravel from ride height before they unseat.... in which case, What good is 3" uptravel and 7" downtravel when you can have 6" up and 6" down on the same spring with slight unseating? Less Down Travel = More Flex That way. of course theres the tire clearance problem, use smaller tires or Highline, Tube fenders get you nowhere when they reuse the stock inner fender.

The N66L only needs to be relocated 2" to run with stock Front bumpstops... any more than that and you'll be putting a MML to clear the differential.
I'd have to measure the hole, I just make em fit the bushings of the shock I'm installing.

I've never looked into the OME applications for different mounting/valving, For any thing over 10" travel I mostly just use Bilstein 5125's and Rancho 9000, mostly cause they are readily available to me, have easily replaceable Bushings and don't have the stinkin Huge Dust Sheild on em (ever tried to press out the sleaves and use a 5/8" bolt in an OME shock? What a PITA )

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