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post #16 of 366 Old 10-01-2009, 07:47 AM
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Great thread Mud!

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post #17 of 366 Old 10-19-2009, 04:06 PM
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[quote= so..... what did we accomplish here with a 2.5" lift and 24.25" long extended, 14.25" collapsed shocks?

it's self explanatory if you can read a tape! they are measured at ride height... ya, no joke this is the advantage.. went from 2.75" uptravel to 4 5/8" without loosing any downtravel....QUOTE]

b8, just got done reading this thread, and don't mean to be a d***, but if you have a 10" travel shock, and you move the lower shock mount down say 2", this extends the shock 2", so you gain 2" in uptravel(if your shock was limiting factor), but you lost 2" of downtravel, right? Trying to grasp this as I have only a 2" spacer in rear but I have 4WD Hardware shocks that are for a 4" lift. I did this originally to make it easier to go to 4" lift later, but have decide it is high enough, so I need to make some of those relocator mounts. I extended the rear bumpstops by 2" as well, which was a big mistake, as I now have only about 3-3 1/2" of uptravel. This was before I ever heard of Jeepforum, btw. Thanks for any advice.



Also, I can flex my front far enough (more than in my avatar pic) that the spring will unseat by 1/2", but that's to be expected with them, huh?

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they are mounted outboard so, so yes, you loose some downtravel but no where near 2", the axle articulates in a radius, not straight down.

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they are mounted outboard so, so yes, you loose some downtravel but no where near 2", the axle articulates in a radius, not straight down.
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As always... nice work, and great documentation.
I'll probably get off my butt and ask you for the pattern when I order the RC 2.5/2.2 lift that's in my future. I'll ASK for the longer shocks to get the benefits you espouse here.

It should be interesting and functional even that low and inexpensive; I just stuffed the trans and tcase up well above the frame rail. I was shooting for a dead flat to the frame belly, but ended up about 1 1/16 below the frame at the bottom of the plate. Could been higher, but I wanted the trans support separate from the armor.

I got a question for ya Mudb8.. Pm if preferred, it's off subject. What are the consequences of a front stretch? I went out about an inch, and noticed my 33s neatly removed the floaties from my bumper, but what else happens? With the belly-up (probably close to 4.5 inches at the front of the tcase), am I getting too close to pulling the front stock shaft splines out? - still stock height - just flat fenders to clear the 33s and a 1" MML/BL.

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Can you take some more pictures of the lower mount? I am getting ready to outboard my rears with Ford F250 shock mounts and need to figure out how I am gonna mount the axle side of the shock. And where did you get the shock stud for that mount?

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what are the benefits are outboarding the rear shocks ?
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what are the benefits are outboarding the rear shocks ?
To allow fitment of longer shocks. Otherwise you're limited by the top of the frame/bottom of the tub being the highest mounting point.
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when trying to build a low COG rig, you end up with shocks limiting your downward travel, or you have shocks that are too long and bottom them out entirely too easy

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gotcha , i may look into doing that then
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Can you take some more pictures of the lower mount? I am getting ready to outboard my rears with Ford F250 shock mounts and need to figure out how I am gonna mount the axle side of the shock. And where did you get the shock stud for that mount?
yep, I have a pattern also for the lower mount I made, the shock stud is a 3/4 and 1 ton chev shock stud, 5/8" mounting, you can also get 1/2" mounting studs that are for use of 5/8 shock bushings from the front of 1/2t 2wd chevs.








I only use the short axle mounts for high clearance full outboard mounting or with short shocks...



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To allow fitment of longer shocks. Otherwise you're limited by the top of the frame/bottom of the tub being the highest mounting point.
not to mention stability

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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is that pattern by chance in a format that you can email or pm? no biggy if its not, just thought i would at least check. and where did you get those shock studs? junkyard? or did you order them from somewhere?

and thank you for the extra pictures

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and where exactly would i be sending this envelope

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