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post #271 of 366 Old 04-03-2014, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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Hey Mud, I recently put in my 2.5" rear springs and needless to say the shocks are a little long. As in I have 3" of up travel. New shocks aren't exactly in the budget right now so I was wondering if you could cut me a pair of these. I'd pay for the material cost and shipping.
I have several requests for mounts, I sent a pattern to be laser cut so i dont have to spend an hour on each pair. Still havent gotten them tho. Right now ive gotten myself in a little bind with too much work and am now behind on a bunch of stuff and a prototype suspension system i thought i could put together in a week on a daily driver, 12 days in now, should be done tomorrow... I cant promise anything, butt will try to get some done soon. I hope to have some laser cut brackets show up first tho.

To those i seem to keep stringing along, im sorry.
I had my boys cut and drill some a few years ago and had complaints so i quit having them help with hand cut parts.

Btw, if it matters... I sent a pair to canada about a couple months ago, the shipping alone via ups was 40 bucks, i put the worth at 10 to help with the taxes on the other end.


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post #272 of 366 Old 04-07-2014, 12:35 AM
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I might have ordered the wrong size shock. Mud, for rear RC 2.5" springs, and a 1.25" BL, would a 22.58/13.71 work well with minimum bumpstops? I'm afraid it'll still be too long.

-Jack
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I might have ordered the wrong size shock. Mud, for rear RC 2.5" springs, and a 1.25" BL, would a 22.58/13.71 work well with minimum bumpstops? I'm afraid it'll still be too long.
Those will need 2" extension if you have stock length upper/lower control arms. No modified pinion angle for a sye.

If you have shock shifters like the ones i recently posted, you will need more. Or bar pin eliminators, you need more.

Rc claims we cant hurt their shocks by using them as bumpstops. It will EVENTUALLY, mess up bar pins and possibly tear a mount off the axle.

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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Those will need 2" extension if you have stock length upper/lower control arms. No modified pinion angle for a sye.

If you have shock shifters like the ones i recently posted, you will need more. Or bar pin eliminators, you need more.

Rc claims we cant hurt their shocks by using them as bumpstops. It will EVENTUALLY, mess up bar pins and possibly tear a mount off the axle.
Is there a way for me to calculate how much uptravel I would have with that combo and those shocks?

-Jack
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Is there a way for me to calculate how much uptravel I would have with that combo and those shocks?
At ride height, Bump the end of your tape on the upper mount bar pin, the measurement is at the bolt center of the lower mount.
Subtract the collapsed measurement of the shock you intend to use from that.

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post #276 of 366 Old 04-21-2014, 08:42 PM
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front shock tower mod

I am planning on extending the front shock towers up 3" and outboard .52" to allow use of OME N66L shocks, which have splash shields on the shock shaft. Has 2" spring lift, fenders have been high-lined, no bump stop extensions are planned, has 33x10.50 tires on stock aluminum wheels as primary tire & wheel combo. Is this likely to work ok? I am afraid of shock shield clearance problems if I try using soup can type shifters as used by mud.
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I am planning on extending the front shock towers up 3" and outboard .52" to allow use of OME N66L shocks, which have splash shields on the shock shaft. Has 2" spring lift, fenders have been high-lined, no bump stop extensions are planned, has 33x10.50 tires on stock aluminum wheels as primary tire & wheel combo. Is this likely to work ok? I am afraid of shock shield clearance problems if I try using soup can type shifters as used by mud.
I was running 34x12.5-16" tires on stock moab 5" backspace.

The dust shield can be cut off tho could be left alone if you use big enough "soup cans".

The ome n66L shock only needs to go up 2" to match factory bumpstops, more than that will over compress/ coil bind the springs.

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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post #278 of 366 Old 04-22-2014, 10:36 AM
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I was running 34x12.5-16" tires on stock moab 5" backspace. The dust shield can be cut off tho could be left alone if you use big enough "soup cans". The ome n66L shock only needs to go up 2" to match factory bumpstops, more than that will over compress/ coil bind the springs.
This the same for the N67L?

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post #279 of 366 Old 04-22-2014, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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This the same for the N67L?
N67L depend on your mounts. They are 14" collapsed and can be run with 2" bumpstop extension, mounted in stock mounts, however, they will make contact with the spring pad and spring. shock shifters and pinion angle change the senario to the point you need to measure and cycle. For example, you are still running stock length upper/lower control arms and add a bolt on shock shifter (as shown in recent pictures above) to correct the problem of shock damages, you will then be in need of nearly 4" bumpstop extensions. By rotating the pinion for a slip yoke eliminator/double cardan drive shaft, with longer upper control arms the amount of required bumpstop extension DECREASES, as the shock bodies also get closer to the axle again.

So to the original question, yes.
Relocating the rear mounts, either the lower 2" down or the upper outboard, 2" higher, keeps you on stock length bumpstop extension.

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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Wondering if there are any updates on the axle brackets?

Looking for a "Grumpy" Front bumper for my TJ from Road Armor
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Wondering if there are any updates on the axle brackets?
I have a few laser cut pairs now, butt i dont like how they modified my pattern, they work great on those i flip and weld on tabs. I have been cutting the axle center line down lower on the ones i have installed which takes just about as long as i spend free hand cutting them myself.

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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Mudb8, this is great! I have read this thread twice and I like what I see. My 04 TJ Rubi has the RE 3.5" standard lift (cv shaft and rotated pinion) with RE1365 rear springs. The RXJ704 rear shocks extended are 23.8", collapsed are 14.8" with 9" of travel. I would like to do the shock shifter with adjustment holes, that way I can replace with longer travel shocks in the future. I want to weld the brkt on in a position that would allow full out boarding, if I choose to go that route later. I can do all the lower rear shock shifter versions here with my plasma, welder and grinders. I can make the second version using the stock brkt and the measurements from your pattern, but there is no future adjustment doing it this way. Since you have made and worked on this, I ask for your opinion and suggestions. I have not seen the pdf pattern posted.

By the way, thanks for the info on the front tb mod. I still need to do a full stuff, but so far so good with uca mod.

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Found out my rear Bilsteins are for a 4" lift. 25" ext, 15.41 col, 9.5" travel

Currently running those on 2.5" springs. Those will work perfect once I get these lower outboard mounts welded up.

-Jack
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Any updates on the mounts?

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Some more variations....

11" balanced travel on 2" lift springs. Front bilsteins are 11.17", a jk application for 5-6" lift. Rear are 5125 11"


I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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DIY highline fenders.... 34-37's under 0"-2.5" lifts
shock length, bumpstop extension, tire size chart click here
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