Low Lift, High Travel 101

DaleII · 09-30-2009, 10:38 PM

Ideal suspension on a jeep is to fit big tires, without a really high suspension lift and have a ton of travel.
What's the best way to go about doing something like this?

Highline fenders, and a low LA kit?

Just for a topic to talk about.

Running925 · 09-30-2009, 10:52 PM

technically if you could remove fenders all together, with a long arm setup and 40's you'd be golden. Unfortunatly thats not for all of us!

**glockster** · 09-30-2009, 10:54 PM

Ideal suspension in who's eyes?

Personally, I'm not into the low center of whatever thing. Not interested at all. In my eyes 33's look right with 4" of lift. 35's with 5"-6" of lift. Whether its all suspension lift or a combination there of, doesn't matter to me

35's on 3" of lift does not look good to me, sorry. A few years ago 6" of lift was the norm. Now it's a new fad. It's cyclic and the LCG thing will probably fall out of flavor in a few years and I'll still be on RE 3.5" springs and won't have to do anything to be back in the "in" crowd.

DaleII · 09-30-2009, 10:57 PM

Haha, I understand what you guys are saying. But i thinking about flatlanders Jeep. With the Dana 60's with 40" tires and he says it's only lifted 2-3" more then stock. Of course by the time my Jeep is like this it will be primarily a trail rig.

AlTheKillerr · 09-30-2009, 10:59 PM

build for where you wheel

however to stay on topic, ditch the fenders. cut the rear and make a mid arm lift with coil overs

Running925 · 09-30-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by glockster

Ideal suspension in who's eyes?

Personally, I'm not into the low center of whatever thing. Not interested at all. In my eyes 33's look right with 4" of lift. 35's with 5"-6" of lift. Whether its all suspension lift or a combination there of, doesn't matter to me

35's on 3" of lift does not look good to me, sorry. A few years ago 6" of lift was the norm. Now it's a new fad. It's cyclic and the LCG thing will probably fall out of flavor in a few years and I'll still be on RE 3.5" springs and won't have to do anything to be back in the "in" crowd.

i believe he was talking function here! not fashion!

jeepy01 · 09-30-2009, 11:03 PM

i wud talk to the rokmen guys they have a lg with 2.5 suspension lift on 40's short arm

DaleII · 09-30-2009, 11:04 PM

As far as this goes, it's something just more of a topic to talk about. Seems like it would be a pretty smart thing to do if anyone did it. I'm looking to learn more.

**mudb8** · 10-01-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by glockster

Ideal suspension in who's eyes?

Personally, I'm not into the low center of whatever thing. Not interested at all. In my eyes 33's look right with 4" of lift. 35's with 5"-6" of lift. Whether its all suspension lift or a combination there of, doesn't matter to me

35's on 3" of lift does not look good to me, sorry. A few years ago 6" of lift was the norm. Now it's a new fad. It's cyclic and the LCG thing will probably fall out of flavor in a few years and I'll still be on RE 3.5" springs and won't have to do anything to be back in the "in" crowd.

2.5" on 35's, with no bl, in these pics it has relocated 12" travel front, 13" travel rear shocks.

**Motorep** · 10-01-2009, 12:49 AM

Seems like 4" and 35's has become pretty popular lately. That's my current setup. I also prefer short arms for rock work.

2006_Sport · 10-01-2009, 01:22 AM

pshh thats nothing guys. Stock suspension, 1 inch body lift, 35s and metal cloak tubes up front

mJUSTINm · 10-01-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by glockster

Ideal suspension in who's eyes?

Personally, I'm not into the low center of whatever thing. Not interested at all. In my eyes 33's look right with 4" of lift. 35's with 5"-6" of lift. Whether its all suspension lift or a combination there of, doesn't matter to me

35's on 3" of lift does not look good to me, sorry. A few years ago 6" of lift was the norm. Now it's a new fad. It's cyclic and the LCG thing will probably fall out of flavor in a few years and I'll still be on RE 3.5" springs and won't have to do anything to be back in the "in" crowd.

x2 for me.. i've noticed it seems to be mostly a regional thing. build it for what type of terrain you wheel in. but at the same time, IMO 6" is a bit much for a TJ, but on an LJ it looks good.

**fratis** · 10-01-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JITP

it looks good.

i think this is partly the point of the previous comment.

i made my fenders completely removable for wheeling. on the street its 35" AT and full fenders and flares. offroad its 36s and no fenders. with the coilover build in front it will be dropped around 1.5" and even larger tires.

for me its less about the "LCG" thing but rather usable uptravel and usable clearance.

GhostRiderLJ · 10-01-2009, 06:42 AM

OK, I'm just rambling here and since I'm kind of a newb at wheeling I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if you set up your rig for low COG and you go over an obstacle on one side and you have limited up travel your whole jeep will rise on that side, as oposed to just the wheel/tire. That would actually raise your COG temporarily as you go over the obstacle, even though the tire on the other side drops and maintains contact. Not saying it's a bad thing, just food for thought. Am I wrong on this?

**NotURMailman** · 10-01-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostRiderLJ

OK, I'm just rambling here and since I'm kind of a newb at wheeling I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if you set up your rig for low COG and you go over an obstacle on one side and you have limited up travel your whole jeep will rise on that side, as oposed to just the wheel/tire. That would actually raise your COG temporarily as you go over the obstacle, even though the tire on the other side drops and maintains contact. Not saying it's a bad thing, just food for thought. Am I wrong on this?

I'm also trying to picture in my head how LCG can be done with high travel using coil springs in the stock locations. Seems to me that you would unload your springs after a relatively small amount of down travel. I'm not talking coil overs or relocated springs. If I'm wrong here it won't be the first time. But, if you think I am please explain why and how. I'd like to wrap my head around this one.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing LCG. And I'm not bashing long travel set ups. I'm just trying to imagine how the two can be done at the same time without massive amounts of custom fabrication.

A lot of people like to claim that they can build a high travel LCG rig for pennies. Installing high line tubes and big tires may give you an LCG rig. And, if that's what you want that's great. But it doens't give you a high travel LCG rig.

It seems to me that building a rig that is truly both high travle and LCG would be either complex, expensive, or both. Say a rig with said HL tube fender and long travel coil overs on custom mounting locations with long arms... you either spend a lot of time setting it up properly, or pay someone else a lot of money to do it for you...