post #1 of Old 11-17-2006, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
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Locking front axle and drivability

Are their any driveability issues with adding a locker to the front axle?

Those of you with them, do you notice any difference on the road (in 2wd) with them?

How about off-road? I know the locker will allow one wheel to travel faster so you can turn, but Im curious how it effects steering. Is it harder to steer with it locked? Does it tend to want to go straight? Or does the system work well.

With a little luck(and alot of money), I'll be doing a gear swap this winter and as long as Im in there, I want to add some kind of traction aid. Ive been looking at Limited slips and lockers and would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks for your help.
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post #2 of Old 11-17-2006, 04:29 PM
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It really depends on the locker. An auto locker like an Aussie or Lockright is a locker that locks/unlocks itself by its self. Other lockers like the OX or ARB are manually opened or closed. But operate on totally different principals.

If you are in 2 wheeld drive then you should notice no differences in drivability on the road. If you put it in 4wd then you will start to notice the differences. A locker like the ARB or OX will not allow the wheels to turn at differetn speeds. When they are locked they are LOCKED. An auto like the Aussie will actually let one wheel speed up over the other one instead of letting one wheel slow down.

On slick, icy roads is where you can really notice it if you are locked in. With an auto locker there is not enough traction to get the wheel speed to differ enough to get the locker to unlock. This can lead to pushing through turn and you ending up in the ditch.

Yes, lockers work well, provided you know what the effects of having one are and how to compensate for it. Try looking in the FAQ section and you will find several write ups that explain it in way more detail. But the short answer is as long as you are not locked into 4wd, you will notice no difference.

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I've got a lunchbox locker in the front end of my 00 TJ -- a LockRight to be exact. On road in 2WD, it's completely invisible unless making super sharp turns or u-turns. Then it will ratchet and make some noise, the way it's supposed to.

Off road, it made an absolute world of difference. It made climbing rocks a ton easier, and was able to do things a lot easier than I was able to before. In 4WD it will make your Jeep push a bit when turning (turning the wheels, but it still plows forward more than normal), so you will need a bit more room to make turns than you normally would, or you will need to reverse it a little bit. Nothing big, but sometimes a pain if you're on a narrow sharp turned trail.

Definately a great add though...knowing what I know now, I would have done it sooner.

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Unless you are into ROCK crawling the TrueTrac is the perfect solution, it´s a limited slip with gears inside, perfect ! Put them front and rear you will not regret. Mud, snow, ice going in streets or back roads, they just work fine by themselves.
Just for real rock crawling you need another type of locker which closes the left and right wheel 100 percent, but this is for most other driving onditions a more unwanted condition as the Jeep will tend to brake out as you have the same wheel speed when cornering, and this does not work !!
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I was kinda under the assumption that all lockers worked simmilar to a Detroit, that they allowed one of the wheels to spin faster to allow for cornering. I should have known that there are differences.

I have considered the true trac, and it could possibly be the way I go. But from what I understand, if you end up with one wheel off the ground, it can be difficult to get power over to the one still on the ground. This has led me to consider a locker, at least for the front.

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post #6 of Old 11-17-2006, 05:58 PM
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I have the Auburn ECTED and love it! Electronic selectable locker. Works as a limited slip when turned off. Best of all the worlds.

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I just did a quick net search on The Auburn ECTED and this just might be what Im looking for. The driveability and added traction of a limited slip, and you still have a locker when you need it.

Thanks REDLYNER!

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Mine is about as trail tested as it gets- Rock crawling in Colorado and a recent romp in Moab.

I can't say enough about the ECTED.
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post #9 of Old 11-17-2006, 07:03 PM
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I'd just go for the simplicity, effectiveness, and low-cost of a standard automatic locker up front, like a Lockrite or Aussie. Simple, holds up, and generally undetectable on the street when you're in 2wd.

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