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Unread 09-02-2010, 06:39 PM   #1
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Lift vs Tow Capacity

So here is my scenario, I own a 2003 TJ Sahara with a 4.5" RE Lift with 3.5 in springs. I installed the SYE and Tom Woods Driveshaft. 33x10.50 BFG AT Tires. I want a BOAT! I would prefer a large boat however I will settle for a small boat for a few years until I get a truck or another suitable tow vehicle. I have read all of the posts regarding towing with the swb wrangler and I am aware of the 2000lb factory towing limit.

Assuming I drive safely would it be irresponsible to tow a 1600lb package (boat,motor and trailer)? (16 to 17ft Carolina Skiff )with my two young boys in the Jeep? Considering the fact that I have lifted the Jeep (CG higher) and increased the tire diameter (reduced effective braking force)

For this adventure I may or may not be on a highway (V<=55 stay alive).............

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Unread 09-02-2010, 06:43 PM   #2
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I would do it if the boat trailer has brakes. If it doesnt have brakes yu can add them for bout $500 if yu install. Good luck
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I would do it if the boat trailer has brakes. If it doesnt have brakes yu can add them for bout $500 if yu install. Good luck

I have considered this, are you talking about the type where the brakes engage mechanically or the electric type?
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Unread 09-02-2010, 06:57 PM   #4
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I would recommend a brake upgrade, if you plan to make boat towing a frequent event. Go with Vanco. By all sources, it seems to be the best out there. I hope to go with the 16" kit one day.

(I've hauled numerous boats with 3 different TJs. Braking was the prickly part. The rest is surmountable.)
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Unread 09-03-2010, 07:00 AM   #5
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I appreciate the input guys. I'll look into the trailer brakes and I think I'll do it!
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Unread 09-03-2010, 07:06 AM   #6
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I have considered this, are you talking about the type where the brakes engage mechanically or the electric type?
You seldom or never see boat trailers with electric brakes. I assume it is because the electric brakes would not like the frequent submersions. I think on every boat trailer I have ever seen with brakes, the brakes were hydraulic surge brakes.

But I think surge brakes would be a big help over no brakes at all.

A 1600 lb package would most likely not have brakes, at least not stock. They would probably have to be added, either by you or a trailer shop.
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upgrade the brakes & be smart.
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Unread 09-03-2010, 07:19 AM   #8
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are you regeared? cause if not, your jeep will be hating life towing with stock gearing on 33's. like everybody said, go with trailer brakes, if you have to install them or it already has it. they make the world of difference.
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Unread 09-03-2010, 07:28 AM   #9
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For the record, I was/am recommending upgrading the brakes on the Jeep. Not the boat (necessarily).

Upgrading the Jeep brakes will help all the time, not just when you are towing.
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You seldom or never see boat trailers with electric brakes. I assume it is because the electric brakes would not like the frequent submersions. I think on every boat trailer I have ever seen with brakes, the brakes were hydraulic surge brakes.

But I think surge brakes would be a big help over no brakes at all.

A 1600 lb package would most likely not have brakes, at least not stock. They would probably have to be added, either by you or a trailer shop.
good point, i feel like a retard! thank you
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Unread 09-03-2010, 10:44 AM   #11
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For the record, I was/am recommending upgrading the brakes on the Jeep. Not the boat (necessarily).

Upgrading the Jeep brakes will help all the time, not just when you are towing.
I figured that out when I went to the Vanco website, I considered this after I lifted it the only thing i noticed was after I lifted it was I had to rely more on down shifting (like I was taught) for slowing down as opposed to the clutch and brake method other wise the brakes would get super hot and it would start to pull!

thanks again for the suggestions
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Unread 09-03-2010, 10:48 AM   #12
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are you regeared? cause if not, your jeep will be hating life towing with stock gearing on 33's. like everybody said, go with trailer brakes, if you have to install them or it already has it. they make the world of difference.
no i am not, i think i am gonna see how it does, i didnt really want to regear that is why i never went to 35's i didnt want to open the re-gear/new axles can of worms just yet, if i have to i will. So far my jeep does pretty good with the 33's and 3.73 gears, luckily i have the Dana44 so when i decide to upgrade at least i wont be upgrading the 35........
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Unread 09-03-2010, 12:10 PM   #13
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Get trailer brakes for sure. I've towed over the 2k mark with a similar set up (I know I know, it was only a couple times on back roads mostly, don't flame me) and it wasn't fun. What about getting the large boat you want and picking up a beater pick up truck to tow it with for like ~$1k? Just throwin it out there
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