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post #1 of 214 Old 08-30-2013, 12:13 AM Thread Starter
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Lift kit thoughts?

Anyone know where i could find a used long arm? Pref 6" and up? I currently have a 4" SA. I have looked into the LA upgrade kits which are 4-6" but my hangup there is getting that extra 2 in. Any help would be appreciated.

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post #2 of 214 Old 08-30-2013, 12:33 AM
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You could look here. Or check craigslist. Or Pirate 4x4 classifieds.

Maintain, wheel, upgrade, repeat.

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thanks, ive looked here. cant seem to find anything. ill check over on pirate. If anyone runs across anything let me know
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post #4 of 214 Old 09-09-2013, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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Does anybody have a long arm for sale in the 1500 or under range?
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Build your own

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post #6 of 214 Old 09-09-2013, 10:13 PM Thread Starter
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ahhh i want to so bad like the clayton LA kit but its just going to be very time consuming, as well as the fact that i commute daily with the jeep and i cant have it in pieces for longer than a weekend
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i saw a great write up on a home made lift kit who did the clayton style square tube arms and the triangulated for link rear. I could probably do the entire build for 5 or 600 dollars. I need a secondary vehicle to drive though
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Clayton doesn't even make anything 6" and up as you say you are looking for. Why that tall? I have run several Clayton iterations and have not needed anything more than 5.5" coil to clear 40" tires.

Why do you want long arm if you are on a budget? They won't get you much until you are stretching, all new axle side brackets to level the arms, etc...

I have had SA kits. Mine worked wonderfully when set up well. I had few complaints.

I went LA because I wanted 40's to run the local trails that need something large to fill the holes.
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im not saying i want the clayton kit. Im saying i found a build thread that followed the guidelines of the clayton system. If i am building my own, i can make them whatever length i choose. How on earth do you clear a 40" tire on a 5.5" lift. I have a 4" lift and can barely clear a 35" The only way you could clear a 40 on that lift is to cut the tub or space the tires outside of the tub. I want to run a 37" tire. I currently have a 4" pro comp short arm kit and i hate it. It flexes decent. At 4" i can cram my 33" tire right into the fender well. It just doesnt compare to a long arm kit though. You may be able to get close with top of the line short arm kits, but on trails, crawling, there is nothing with the strength and flex of a long arm .
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im not saying i want the clayton kit. Im saying i found a build thread that followed the guidelines of the clayton system. If i am building my own, i can make them whatever length i choose. How on earth do you clear a 40" tire on a 5.5" lift. I have a 4" lift and can barely clear a 35" The only way you could clear a 40 on that lift is to cut the tub or space the tires outside of the tub. I want to run a 37" tire. I currently have a 4" pro comp short arm kit and i hate it. It flexes decent. At 4" i can cram my 33" tire right into the fender well. It just doesnt compare to a long arm kit though. You may be able to get close with top of the line short arm kits, but on trails, crawling, there is nothing with the strength and flex of a long arm .
There's more to this stuff than you realize.

37's and 20" between the ground and frame rails. That equates to about 2" of "lift." 5.5" of up travel in the front, 6" in the rear.



Get out a little more. There's more to this stuff than "lift."

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How on earth do you clear a 40" tire on a 5.5" lift. I have a 4" lift and can barely clear a 35" The only way you could clear a 40 on that lift is to cut the tub or space the tires outside of the tub. I want to run a 37" tire. I currently have a 4" pro comp short arm kit and i hate it. It flexes decent. At 4" i can cram my 33" tire right into the fender well. It just doesnt compare to a long arm kit though. You may be able to get close with top of the line short arm kits, but on trails, crawling, there is nothing with the strength and flex of a long arm .
full width axles and/or removing sheetmetal


your last statement made me giggle, and sounds like you quoted it directly from a magazine that is promoting long arms.
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Sounds more like it came from someone who knows more than you think he does. I know how a suspension works. I know how to properly set one up. It is common sense that if you are running a 5.5" lift with 40" tires you are not going to have a capable off road rig without cutting fenders. Sure you may be able to cram a 40" tire under there and it may get you down the street but its not going to get you anywhere when you leave hard top. As I recall I do believe I never asked your advice on suspension or whether your high dollar knowledge was of any use to me. I live in the most backwoods part of VA you will find. I know the woods better than you know how to spell your name. And I know that a 6" long arm suspension on 40s ain't going to get you anywhere. I simply asked for help on finding a used kit for one of my vehicles. Not a bunch of high class gibberish by a few guys who were probably raised by hellen keller. You two have a nice day and find someone else to bless with your wonderful ego.
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It is common sense that if you are running a 5.5" lift with 40" tires you are not going to have a capable off road rig without cutting fenders.
If you're on 40's and on stock fenders, you're not using your Jeep.

Disclaimer: I'm sure someone will come out of the woodwork with 40's and stock fenders wheeling in Utah.

Will, instead of *****ing and moaning about jibberish nobody cares about, how about you prove that you're right in a technical manner. As it stands right now, it appears you don't know what you're talking about despite you stating the opposite.

If you want to buy someone's used junk, keep an eye out on the forum classifieds here and elsewhere. I feel like that can go without saying.

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im not saying i want the clayton kit. Im saying i found a build thread that followed the guidelines of the clayton system. If i am building my own, i can make them whatever length i choose. How on earth do you clear a 40" tire on a 5.5" lift. I have a 4" lift and can barely clear a 35" The only way you could clear a 40 on that lift is to cut the tub or space the tires outside of the tub. I want to run a 37" tire. I currently have a 4" pro comp short arm kit and i hate it. It flexes decent. At 4" i can cram my 33" tire right into the fender well. It just doesnt compare to a long arm kit though. You may be able to get close with top of the line short arm kits, but on trails, crawling, there is nothing with the strength and flex of a long arm .
Yes, I've cut sheet metal. On the road to one tons and 40's a grinder, sawzall, jig saw, and whatever else removes and/or shapes metal have become good friends of mine.
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