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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:07 AM   #1
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Lift Help--conflicted advice

Hey everyone. I have a 1998 TJ with a 4cyl and 5 speed transmission.
I got my factory build sheet and I have the 4.11 gears.
I want a lift. Preferably, a 4 inch, with 33" tires.

I've always loved Jeeps and I saved up for this one (I wanted a 6 cyl but bought at the peak of Jeep season and didn't have the cash at the time for a good one). But for my dream I need a lift. I love the look and it will let me do the wheeling I want more easily.

I am prepared and saved to get a 4 in lift (I was thinking the Skyjacker 4" suspension) and new tires and wheels.
A buddy of mine just did one on his friends '00 Auto TJ and said they didn't need to regear or do break lines or yolks or any of that. But then I have an uncle who has a XJ (i think) who says I absolutely can't go over 3" lift or 31.5" tires without having to regear get new yolks and all that stuff..
I can't afford the regearing. But (http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowle...article-26.htm) this chart makes it seem like I can do it. I do a reasonable amount of highway driving but don't expect to go fast.

SO... back to the question. Can I put a 4" suspension lift on my '98 TJ 4 Cyl with 33" tires with 4.11 gears without needing to completely regear?

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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:13 AM   #2
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You can but... If you have any hills I can guarantee you you will hate it after a while. With 31's I barely use fifth gear and it is nearly flat around me.

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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:14 AM   #3
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If you go to a 4" life you will need a SYE(Slip Yoke Eliminator). Because the rear driveshaft angle will be too steep and bind the joints. You have the 4 cyl engine with 4.10 gears, so with 33" tires YES, you would need to regear or it will be gutless.

You would be better off getting a 3" suspension lift, a 1" motor mount lift, and a 1" body lift. It will allow you to not need a SYE and new driveshaft. Do some searching on this site and take a month or two to get all the info that is out there. Stay away from the skyjacker lift as well. Others will also chime in I'm sure.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:17 AM   #4
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Check out the Zone 4.25" combo lift and 33x10.50 tires(not 12.50's).A friend of mine runs that combo with a 4 banger and it's good offroad,but not so good on hilly highways.I'd do it for city and offroad only driving.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #5
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If you go to a 4" life you will need a SYE(Slip Yoke Eliminator). Because the rear driveshaft angle will be too steep and bind the joints. You have the 4 cyl engine with 4.10 gears, so with 33" tires YES, you would need to regear or it will be gutless.
What do you mean gutless? Just slow?
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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:28 AM   #6
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Yes slow getting up to speed and no passing power

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Unread 05-13-2013, 12:25 PM   #7
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Do more saving.

Why a 4" lift? You can fit 33s better than that.
Why skyjacker?
I wouldn't want to try a 4 banger on 33s. I've not heard good things about it.
If you want to do it, do it properly. Don't just go with what your friends did.

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Unread 05-13-2013, 01:35 PM   #8
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Because I've always liked the look of that combo, honestly. And it will give me more than enough wheeling clearance.
Would it make a significant difference if I did a 3" with 32" tires?
I have the time to do it now, I will be too busy for a long time to come to be Jeep-less, so I need to stick to the money I have now.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 02:00 PM   #9
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You can do a 3" with 33s.

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Unread 05-13-2013, 02:09 PM   #10
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You can do a 3" with 33s.

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Unread 05-13-2013, 05:03 PM   #11
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Do a 3" and 1" body lift. You won't be thrilled with the 33's and 4.11 gears with the 4-banger but you can save and regear later if you want. a motor mount lift or a t-case drop will deal with the driveline issues.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 06:36 PM   #12
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Do a 3" and 1" body lift. You won't be thrilled with the 33's and 4.11 gears with the 4-banger but you can save and regear later if you want. a motor mount lift or a t-case drop will deal with the driveline issues.
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Thanks. Would doing 32's be better or not much of a difference?
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Unread 05-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #13
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Thanks. Would doing 32's be better or not much of a difference?
Probably not a noticeable difference

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Unread 05-13-2013, 09:32 PM   #14
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I drove my jeep with worse gearing, 3.73s and the 5 speed for about 6 years on 33s. I didn't know what I was missing. I remember getting pulled over in a mild hilly area doing 89mph. My speedo was way off and I hadn't been paying attention. So it can be made to be okay, but would have sucked much worse on long steep grades for sure. Your gearing will be better than the 3.73 I had. I have a buddy who still drives his with 4.11s going on 10 years with 35s and the 6 speed. I would have regeared sooner, but I didn't know any better, but it wasn't the end of the world either.
Also listen to what these guys are saying when it comes to a 4" lift.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 10:19 PM   #15
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I drove my jeep with worse gearing, 3.73s and the 5 speed for about 6 years on 33s. I didn't know what I was missing. I remember getting pulled over in a mild hilly area doing 89mph. My speedo was way off and I hadn't been paying attention. So it can be made to be okay, but would have sucked much worse on long steep grades for sure. Your gearing will be better than the 3.73 I had. I have a buddy who still drives his with 4.11s going on 10 years with 35s and the 6 speed. I would have regeared sooner, but I didn't know any better, but it wasn't the end of the world either.
Also listen to what these guys are saying when it comes to a 4" lift.
OP has a 4 banger, so deep gearing is even more needed than it is in your case.

I wouldn't go bigger than 31" with the 4 cyl and stock gears, and even that is pushing it for some people.

Let me rephrase, I would go bigger, and I'd regear.
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