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rachaelbarr 05-13-2013 11:07 AM

Lift Help--conflicted advice
 
Hey everyone. I have a 1998 TJ with a 4cyl and 5 speed transmission.
I got my factory build sheet and I have the 4.11 gears.
I want a lift. Preferably, a 4 inch, with 33" tires.

I've always loved Jeeps and I saved up for this one (I wanted a 6 cyl but bought at the peak of Jeep season and didn't have the cash at the time for a good one). But for my dream I need a lift. I love the look and it will let me do the wheeling I want more easily.

I am prepared and saved to get a 4 in lift (I was thinking the Skyjacker 4" suspension) and new tires and wheels.
A buddy of mine just did one on his friends '00 Auto TJ and said they didn't need to regear or do break lines or yolks or any of that. But then I have an uncle who has a XJ (i think) who says I absolutely can't go over 3" lift or 31.5" tires without having to regear get new yolks and all that stuff..
I can't afford the regearing. But (http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowle...article-26.htm) this chart makes it seem like I can do it. I do a reasonable amount of highway driving but don't expect to go fast.

SO... back to the question. Can I put a 4" suspension lift on my '98 TJ 4 Cyl with 33" tires with 4.11 gears without needing to completely regear?

wwch99tj 05-13-2013 11:13 AM

You can but... If you have any hills I can guarantee you you will hate it after a while. With 31's I barely use fifth gear and it is nearly flat around me.

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Agent620 05-13-2013 11:14 AM

If you go to a 4" life you will need a SYE(Slip Yoke Eliminator). Because the rear driveshaft angle will be too steep and bind the joints. You have the 4 cyl engine with 4.10 gears, so with 33" tires YES, you would need to regear or it will be gutless.

You would be better off getting a 3" suspension lift, a 1" motor mount lift, and a 1" body lift. It will allow you to not need a SYE and new driveshaft. Do some searching on this site and take a month or two to get all the info that is out there. Stay away from the skyjacker lift as well. Others will also chime in I'm sure.

TheBoogieman 05-13-2013 11:17 AM

Check out the Zone 4.25" combo lift and 33x10.50 tires(not 12.50's).A friend of mine runs that combo with a 4 banger and it's good offroad,but not so good on hilly highways.I'd do it for city and offroad only driving.

rachaelbarr 05-13-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent620 (Post 15427381)
If you go to a 4" life you will need a SYE(Slip Yoke Eliminator). Because the rear driveshaft angle will be too steep and bind the joints. You have the 4 cyl engine with 4.10 gears, so with 33" tires YES, you would need to regear or it will be gutless.

What do you mean gutless? Just slow?

wwch99tj 05-13-2013 11:28 AM

Yes slow getting up to speed and no passing power

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tyvanwie 05-13-2013 12:25 PM

Do more saving.

Why a 4" lift? You can fit 33s better than that.
Why skyjacker?
I wouldn't want to try a 4 banger on 33s. I've not heard good things about it.
If you want to do it, do it properly. Don't just go with what your friends did.

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rachaelbarr 05-13-2013 01:35 PM

Because I've always liked the look of that combo, honestly. And it will give me more than enough wheeling clearance.
Would it make a significant difference if I did a 3" with 32" tires?
I have the time to do it now, I will be too busy for a long time to come to be Jeep-less, so I need to stick to the money I have now.

tyvanwie 05-13-2013 02:00 PM

You can do a 3" with 33s.

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Caribic-TJ 05-13-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tyvanwie (Post 15428019)
You can do a 3" with 33s.

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This. And 33x10.50R15 tires as Boogieman already mentioned.
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otisdog 05-13-2013 05:03 PM

Do a 3" and 1" body lift. You won't be thrilled with the 33's and 4.11 gears with the 4-banger but you can save and regear later if you want. a motor mount lift or a t-case drop will deal with the driveline issues.
Jim

rachaelbarr 05-13-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by otisdog (Post 15428733)
Do a 3" and 1" body lift. You won't be thrilled with the 33's and 4.11 gears with the 4-banger but you can save and regear later if you want. a motor mount lift or a t-case drop will deal with the driveline issues.
Jim

Thanks. Would doing 32's be better or not much of a difference?

wwch99tj 05-13-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rachaelbarr (Post 15429190)

Thanks. Would doing 32's be better or not much of a difference?

Probably not a noticeable difference

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J03_TJ 05-13-2013 09:32 PM

I drove my jeep with worse gearing, 3.73s and the 5 speed for about 6 years on 33s. I didn't know what I was missing. I remember getting pulled over in a mild hilly area doing 89mph. My speedo was way off and I hadn't been paying attention. So it can be made to be okay, but would have sucked much worse on long steep grades for sure. Your gearing will be better than the 3.73 I had. I have a buddy who still drives his with 4.11s going on 10 years with 35s and the 6 speed. I would have regeared sooner, but I didn't know any better, but it wasn't the end of the world either.
Also listen to what these guys are saying when it comes to a 4" lift.

Wheelin98TJ 05-13-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by J03_TJ (Post 15430144)
I drove my jeep with worse gearing, 3.73s and the 5 speed for about 6 years on 33s. I didn't know what I was missing. I remember getting pulled over in a mild hilly area doing 89mph. My speedo was way off and I hadn't been paying attention. So it can be made to be okay, but would have sucked much worse on long steep grades for sure. Your gearing will be better than the 3.73 I had. I have a buddy who still drives his with 4.11s going on 10 years with 35s and the 6 speed. I would have regeared sooner, but I didn't know any better, but it wasn't the end of the world either.
Also listen to what these guys are saying when it comes to a 4" lift.

OP has a 4 banger, so deep gearing is even more needed than it is in your case.

I wouldn't go bigger than 31" with the 4 cyl and stock gears, and even that is pushing it for some people.

Let me rephrase, I would go bigger, and I'd regear. :laugh:


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