[chmo]

Originally Posted by matsonian

LOL!

Sorry boys, a wife with a 103 temp kept me from posting until late last night. We are in presale mode on the two kits. More will be posted in the next couple days including individual arm sets, coil sets, and more.

http://www.metalcloak.com/TJ-Wrangle...Kits-s/252.htm

the 3.5" full kit is shweeeeet ... 14" travel on a short arm system whoaaa ... worrying about my driveshafts binding up? (and the antirock arms flipping?)

will you offer the kit with 1213 6paks as well? (less bump stop needed)

[Barcus]

Originally Posted by matsonian

Working on additional images, which is one of the processes in the pre-sale mode.

However, I can say that since, like on the JK and thanks to the 6Pak shocks, our suspension is designed for Up-Travel as well as Down-Travel, our front and rear Solid Chromoly track bars are designed to Clear the Diff while going up & down.

Let me know if there is something specific you would like to see.

And thanks for the wishes for the wife. Fever broke Sunday. She is doing much better today.

Im curious to see how much clearance you have at the diff when compressed. looking forward to the pics.

While im a fan of JJ's, im happy to see some out there trying to do something different. Competition sparks innovation.

[matsonian]

Originally Posted by chmo

the 3.5" full kit is shweeeeet ... 14" travel on a short arm system whoaaa ... worrying about my driveshafts binding up? (and the antirock arms flipping?)

will you offer the kit with 1213 6paks as well? (less bump stop needed)

The primary short arm kit does include 1213's in the front and rear. Sorry for any confusion the graphics may have provided on the website. 14's are an option, however, they will need to be limit strapped on the 3.5" short arm.

If you already have an existing 3.5" long arm, you can run our upgrade kit with 1414's in the front and 1213's in the rear.

[chmo]

Originally Posted by matsonian

The primary short arm kit does include 1213's in the front and rear. Sorry for any confusion the graphics may have provided on the website. 14's are an option, however, they will need to be limit strapped on the 3.5" short arm.

If you already have an existing 3.5" long arm, you can run our upgrade kit with 1414's in the front and 1213's in the rear.

can't wait to see the kit becoming reality!

My TJ is (will be, after my LS1 swap) quite light in the front and because of the tire/can carrier in the rear relatively heavy in the back ... so I am not that happy with my actual OME HD lift anymore (adjustments see profile)
My whole setup needs to be revisited ... including my crappy CAs!
Doing mainly desert terrain here in fast pace (will become faster after the swap) ... so a healthy balance between good UP travel and down travel with GOOD short bodied shocks and your new CA's seems so tempting.
Soft but tall front coils and stiffer rear coils would be the way to go for me.
I hope your front track bars clear the diff with less than 2" (or stock) bump stop extension!

[JDXX]

Hey Matson,

Sorry to hear your wife was sick. That stuff can be pretty bad. My coworker had to go home today because his wife was so sick.

Those kits look sweet.

I am totally interested to hear more about these parts. How soon will individual parts be available? My birthday is in june I might have to get some more metal cloak

ThanXX,,,,,,,JDXX

[matsonian]

Originally Posted by JDXX

Hey Matson,

Sorry to hear your wife was sick. That stuff can be pretty bad. My coworker had to go home today because his wife was so sick.

Those kits look sweet.

I am totally interested to hear more about these parts. How soon will individual parts be available? My birthday is in june I might have to get some more metal cloak

ThanXX,,,,,,,JDXX

Thank you... thankfully she is doing much better now. Having a new puppy in the house may have been part of the cure.

The individual parts will be up over the next couple days. I will post here when complete.

[JC_Sahara]

Originally Posted by connor0770

I actually have the currie 4" Lift, so yes, i have tried the JJ. Im not knocking the JJ's one bit. Im just saying its annoying when somebody comes in and makes it sound as though if you dont run JJ's then you are far inferior to everybody else that does. I think if somebody wants to wheel with the MC joints let em... heck, wheel the piss outa them. As long as they are having fun on the trail and are happy with their purchase who gives a crap?

Heck I had RE arms on my XJ (bushings, not even a RE joint) and I loved them. I wheeled the crap outa my cherokee for being on 31's. But i guess since i didnt have curries JJ's on them, my rig was inferior to everybody else with JJ's and im an idiot.

I wasnt calling you out or saying youre an idiot. Having read some of the RE bushing issues, i didnt want to get RE arms, and Currie seemed to have a nice track record on JF so i went with them. They are holding up well, and like others have stated Imped ran his DRY for 40,000 miles and they looked fine when pulled apart and required minor cleaning and they looked new! MC joints just need to have time to get there track record up! I was just posting my

[inglisleslie]

how do i edit this thread so that the title reads Johnny Joint instead of "Johnny Joins"...its driving me crazy....can an admin do that bc i am a free user and have no controls

[ken white]

Originally Posted by inglisleslie

how do i edit this thread so that the title reads Johnny Joint instead of "Johnny Joins"...its driving me crazy....can an admin do that bc i am a free user and have no controls

Edit, Go Advanced...

[MotoSoul]

Well Matson I'm glad to see the full kit has been released. Do you have a time frame for when the springs will be available on their own? I kept getting little tid bits from my friend Tom about the prototypes. I was hoping when he got back from Moab he might have more news, but this is right from the source.

Since I always bugged him about the springs I'll bug you about the last piece missing from his rig. When are the rear bumpers coming :P

[Line58]

I'm glad to see another option for rod ends. I'm getting ready to build a custom set of double adjustable control arms and have been assessing my options for joints.

While it looks like these new MC joints would meet my needs quite well (my rig is my dd, so most of the time is on pavement with only the occasional trip to the rocks), that price is just too high. For ~ $13 less per joint I could use Currie JJ's and achieve comparable (if not superior) results with a proven product. If your prices come down I'd love to try your product, but with the current price it'd just be too expensive (~$180 for the 14 joints I need).

[matsonian]

Originally Posted by MotoSoul

Well Matson I'm glad to see the full kit has been released. Do you have a time frame for when the springs will be available on their own? I kept getting little tid bits from my friend Tom about the prototypes. I was hoping when he got back from Moab he might have more news, but this is right from the source.

Since I always bugged him about the springs I'll bug you about the last piece missing from his rig. When are the rear bumpers coming :P

I expect the Dual Rate Coils to be available starting tomorrow.

As for TJ/LJ Rear Bumper... I've been sworn to secrecy ( in other words, the engineers are telling me nothing! )

[matsonian]

Originally Posted by Line58

I'm glad to see another option for rod ends. I'm getting ready to build a custom set of double adjustable control arms and have been assessing my options for joints.

While it looks like these new MC joints would meet my needs quite well (my rig is my dd, so most of the time is on pavement with only the occasional trip to the rocks), that price is just too high. For ~ $13 less per joint I could use Currie JJ's and achieve comparable (if not superior) results with a proven product. If your prices come down I'd love to try your product, but with the current price it'd just be too expensive (~$180 for the 14 joints I need).

Understood. While we strive to meet the best price possible, manufacturing is a game of supply and demand. Currently our quantities of manufacture do not facilitate lower pricing on the components.

You will probably achieve everything you need with the JJ/JJ set up. Personally, the last rig I rode in with JJ/JJ control arms came no where near the ride quality of our Duroflex arms, but that is a personal preference and, of course, I'm biased.

It is hard to get new products and new concepts past the current standard, especially when that standard has a proven track record -- we understand that and appreciate all the awesome customers who are giving MC a shot.

[MotoSoul]

Sounds good. I will have to bug him at coffee tonight to see when he is going to the boarder next. Bank account is going to be screaming bloody murder after just upgrading to a Rubi...

[Line58]

Originally Posted by matsonian

Understood. While we strive to meet the best price possible, manufacturing is a game of supply and demand. Currently our quantities of manufacture do not facilitate lower pricing on the components.

You will probably achieve everything you need with the JJ/JJ set up. Personally, the last rig I rode in with JJ/JJ control arms came no where near the ride quality of our Duroflex arms, but that is a personal preference and, of course, I'm biased.

It is hard to get new products and new concepts past the current standard, especially when that standard has a proven track record -- we understand that and appreciate all the awesome customers who are giving MC a shot.

I can appreciate that. Good luck with the new product, it appears to be every bit as innovative as the rest of the MC product line! I look forward to seeing how these joints fair.