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Unread 09-13-2013, 07:53 AM   #1
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jk axles in a tj? can it be done?

hey everyone i recently was offered the dana 44 f/r axels out of a 2012 4door jk . since i currently have the dana35 and dana 30 in my tj and have been saving up for a8.8 swap my question is would it be more cost effective to put the jk axels in my tj instead? has anyone done this?
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If it dont fit.....force it. if it breaks.....it needed replaced anyway
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hey everyone i recently was offered the dana 44 f/r axels out of a 2012 4door jk . since i currently have the dana35 and dana 30 in my tj and have been saving up for a8.8 swap my question is would it be more cost effective to put the jk axels in my tj instead? has anyone done this?
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Were you planning on building the 8.8 yourself or buying one assembled? If you were planning on doing the cutting/grinding/welding of brackets on the 8.8, then it would be the same thing on the jk 44's. I know that the jk axles are pretty good, and its been done. They are not a direct bolt in though. Cost effectiveness depends on how much you spend on the jk axles, if it is a good deal, go for it.
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cost effectiveness depends on what you get them for and whats inside them

any axle can be put in any vehicle, these are not bolt in, will require fab work and new wheels or adapter spacers, plus they are wider

they are rather beefy compared to a tj 44 or an 8.8
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Very possible, many people have done it. If you have a high level of knowledge in relation to steering and suspension, you'll be golden. If not, I'd suggest another route.
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Sorry to threadjack but I am in a similar boat. I have a buddy who has a Dana 44 from a Cherokee, obviously it will have to be changed from a leaf to spring configuration but is it worth it? Haven't really seen any options for bracketry.
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They're great axles and IMO the best choice if you are planning on 37s
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Sorry to threadjack but I am in a similar boat. I have a buddy who has a Dana 44 from a Cherokee, obviously it will have to be changed from a leaf to spring configuration but is it worth it? Haven't really seen any options for bracketry.
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Were you planning on building the 8.8 yourself or buying one assembled? If you were planning on doing the cutting/grinding/welding of brackets on the 8.8, then it would be the same thing on the jk 44's. I know that the jk axles are pretty good, and its been done. They are not a direct bolt in though. Cost effectiveness depends on how much you spend on the jk axles, if it is a good deal, go for it.
my plan was to get a junkyard 8.8 (hopefully with low miles 4.10 gears and LSD) install new seals bearings ect and get the artec 8.8 swap kit with truss and truss bridge to elimate the axel tubes spinning. doing all the work myself here in the shop. for now im just running 33s but have plans to go to 37s or 38s in the distant future
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my plan was to get a junkyard 8.8 (hopefully with low miles 4.10 gears and LSD) install new seals bearings ect and get the artec 8.8 swap kit with truss and truss bridge to elimate the axel tubes spinning. doing all the work myself here in the shop. for now im just running 33s but have plans to go to 37s or 38s in the distant future
Unless you're running a lot of HP either axle will do just fine with 37's or 38's, the 8.8 is behind plenty of V8's with large tires.

The trick is - if you buy the 8.8 what are you going to do for a front. 37's (and really 35's) are right there on the absolute edge for a D30, but moving to a D44 isn't much better and is right on the edge for the 38's. I'm hoping somebody will chime in on the strength of the JK D30, if it can/will handle that size tire then I say go for it. You can buy brackets and have somebody weld them on. You'll have to buy new rims or get adapters, but with all the lifted JK's in Boise you can probably find some cheap take-offs.
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Unless you're running a lot of HP either axle will do just fine with 37's or 38's, the 8.8 is behind plenty of V8's with large tires.

The trick is - if you buy the 8.8 what are you going to do for a front. 37's (and really 35's) are right there on the absolute edge for a D30, but moving to a D44 isn't much better and is right on the edge for the 38's. I'm hoping somebody will chime in on the strength of the JK D30, if it can/will handle that size tire then I say go for it. You can buy brackets and have somebody weld them on. You'll have to buy new rims or get adapters, but with all the lifted JK's in Boise you can probably find some cheap take-offs.
im already running the same bolt pattern as a jk so im not worried about wheels and tires. i can pickup bolth axels for $1500 and thought it might be cheaper than doing the 8.8 and HP30 for the front since i was going to pick one up at a junkyard with 4.10s and a LSD ($150) get the artec 8.8 swap with truss and truss bridge($350)
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im already running the same bolt pattern as a jk so im not worried about wheels and tires. i can pickup bolth axels for $1500 and thought it might be cheaper than doing the 8.8 and HP30 for the front since i was going to pick one up at a junkyard with 4.10s and a LSD ($150) get the artec 8.8 swap with truss and truss bridge($350)
That's right, I forgot about the rim/tire combo you're running now. In that case the JK axles would be my choice. They're a little wider and you won't have to run spacers, the rear is probably better than the 8.8 (that 8.8 is a pretty tough axle and is very underrated by some people but there are tons of guys running V8's and big meats with those things) but the front is definitely better than a regular D30.

I've seen bracket kits from $250 for the rear and around $400 for the front. Add the cost of welding and you could probably get the whole thing done for under $2500. From there you could add lockers and gears as time goes by and then truss, upgrade axles, etc. when needed. With an HPD30 you'd have to upgrade shafts, so you might as well go 30spl up front but then you'd have to buy a locker so you might as well re-gear since you want to run big tires, but then you have to regear the rear, but then you should just lock it while you're in there - it's a perpetual ladder! The 8.8 and D30 could easily add up to $2000-$2500 and you'd still have an inferior front axle.

Buy the JK axles and don't look back...
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Just do it or send me a link to where I can buy them from. Lots of work involved either way you go. If you go with the 8.8 and a hp30 it's a little easier swap. JK axles in a TJ require a little more patience especially in the front with the steering.


Are the both JK44s?
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