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Unread 10-13-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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Jeep Turn over after getting stuck but won't start.

I went four wheeling this weekend and got into a little mud. My Jeep was running when I got pulled out but would not start once I killed it. After inspecting the Jeep I noticed the battery tray had loosened and the positive terminal had arced onto the fender. I also smelled a little burnt electrical. So far I have done the following trouble shooting...
-I did not get into any water and checked the obvious places to make sure water was not the culprit.

- I have pressure at the fuel rail and can hear the pump turning on. I did the turn the key three times trick and did not get any codes.

-My lights work fine as do all accessories.

-I researched a little and replaced the ignition coil and battery.

-Once that did not work I bought a multimeter and measured 10 volts off the coil and same through the wire from the coil to the distributor cap. However, nothing out of the distributor itself.

I do not really know much about the electrical aspect of my Jeep but I am learning as I go. Could the culprit be my distributor?

As always any input will be much appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Unread 10-13-2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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I did the turn the key three times trick and did not get any codes.
That doesn't work on 1998-2000 TJ's, you need an OBD II code reader.

How many volts are in your battery?...
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Unread 10-13-2013, 08:14 PM   #3
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I'll have to check it but I bought a brand new battery today so it should be fine.
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Unread 10-13-2013, 08:17 PM   #4
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Also, thanks for the heads up about the key trick not working. One of the guys who helped pull me out told me about it. He has a 97 TJ so it worked for him. Good to know.
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Unread 10-13-2013, 08:25 PM   #5
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Also, thanks for the heads up about the key trick not working. One of the guys who helped pull me out told me about it. He has a 97 TJ so it worked for him. Good to know.
That's one of the tricks of the trade you'll learn on this forum and you're welcome...
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Unread 10-14-2013, 07:00 AM   #6
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Turning over and not starting or not turning over at all?

Did you check the starter? Bang on it a few times with a hammer and see if it is stuck. Are the wires getting hot when you try starting it?

MUD will and can kill a starter.


Just reread your post and I see it turns over but won't start.

Check and make sure all the connections are CLEAN and tight and you didn't kill the wiring to your starter and solenoid.

Dirty or bad Crank position sensor is very possible.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 07:31 AM   #7
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I just got back from renting an OBDII scanner and it came back with no code given. I will check the starter connections and bang on it in a few. It is raining here pretty bad. Thanks for the advice. I'll let you know what happens.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 08:05 AM   #8
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Do not bang on the starter. Check the wiring running to the starter. There will be a plug on the passenger side inner fender. The connection could have pulled loose.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 08:25 AM   #9
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The plug is on there. I even disconnected and reconnected it. Still wont start. I can't check the voltage because its pouring rain outside. The tow driver wouldn't put it in my drive way so I could push it into the garage. So its stuck on the curb for now. Any more ideas?
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Unread 10-14-2013, 08:31 AM   #10
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If you spark plugs don't spark it could either be your CPS or Distributor cap since everything else seems to have power coil etc..

Also just to be sure i would take your distributor cap off and turn it over to make sure your rotor inside is turning
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Unread 10-14-2013, 08:51 AM   #11
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I checked the rotor to ensure it was dry and turning on the trail. Guess I should have posted that on my troubleshooting/first post. It does turn but there is no spark at the plugs. I have been looking at youtube while the rain passes and it does look like it could be a CPS issue. That is my next step. You guys have really helped me troubleshoot this issue. Hopefully we figure it out and I can post a victory post.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 08:59 AM   #12
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Found this on another forum. Has me wondering since I was riding at the Red River when this occurred....

There are some cases when the CPS works intermittently. Sometimes the wire is broken or the connector contacts are oxidated. Another rare case is whan you have dirt with high content of iron (red sands) in the bellhousing. The dirt goes to fill some of the grooves of the reluctor ring and the readings are staggered.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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Checked to CPS with the multimeter and had infinite resistance which means it should be good. I'll look at the distributor once more and maybe even just replace it.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 11:50 AM   #14
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Took the CPS out cleaned it and inspected it. About half way down the wires are melted together.... Seems to be the culprit so off to the parts store to get another one.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 12:52 PM   #15
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It was the CPS. Put new one in cranked right up! Thanks for the assistance for everybody who helped, much appreciated!
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