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Unread 12-18-2007, 08:45 AM   #1
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Jeep hates the winter

I have noticed this over the years with my 5 speed 03 4 cyl that when the cold comes it does not run as well. In past years I have just blown this off because I usually park it for most of the winter. This winter though I have had to use it more and it really sucks. I have found two issues.

1. Shifting into first from a stop can be almost impossible. I usually need to shift into second and then back to first; even then it takes a lot of pressure to get it in. Once the engine has been running for about 20 mins though it does appear to shift better, going between any other gears however is no problem regardless of how long the engine has been running.

2. Not sure if this is related to above or the cold but for some reason my 4wd light will not come on. I am certain it is in 4wd because if I am on packed snow and the rear spins once I pull the lever up to 4HI I am able to move with no spinning. There is also the slight whine from the front shaft. It appears to also come out of 4wd with out any issues as well there has been a few times it does not come right out and after a couple hundred feet I get a little thump and it disengages.

I have a feeling once warmer weather comes I will have no issue again with shifting and maybe the light will start to work again. I just hope the is no large underlying issue here. The Jeep only has about 50,000 miles on it and most of that came in the last year.
Thanks in advance.

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Unread 12-18-2007, 09:19 AM   #2
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1. Worn synchros (IMO),a good synthetic gear oil might help somewhat(Redline MT-90/Royal purple synchromax).
2. Probably just the 4WD dash light burned out.
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Unread 12-18-2007, 09:35 AM   #3
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switch on top of the transfer case, do a search it is a cheap part there was a post recently about it, same issue with the 4WD light
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Unread 12-18-2007, 09:41 AM   #4
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shwalby i feel the same way man... jeep runs awesome in the summer then winter comes and all i wanna do is sell it... rough shift into first.... no heat... bumpier ride....( my light comes on he he) But seriously you know how much it sux to drive something that doesn't defrost... it sux alot!!!
- I should probably look into a good synthetic gear oil...
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Unread 12-18-2007, 09:45 AM   #5
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I have 46k on mine and the 5spd tranny is horrible. Shifting into 1st and from 1st into 2nd either takes a lot of pressure or you can feel the gears bumping when it goes in. Once warmed up it gets better. However I expect more from a 04 transmission.
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Unread 12-18-2007, 10:52 AM   #6
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[QUOTE=Beefstew]shwalby i feel the same way man... jeep runs awesome in the summer then winter comes and all i wanna do is sell it...QUOTE]

Yeah, when I lived in the Northeast it was the same. Its fun to take the top and doors off in the summer and have this free flowing feeling. But when its winter, and all you want to do is be warm and comfortable. I would tend to lean toward taking my mom's explorer. Nice, cozy, automatic.
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Unread 12-19-2007, 05:46 AM   #7
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x2!!!!!!!!!! Have the same issues with 158k miles. Changed manual box to synthetic fluids two weeks ago. Helped a little bit but still can take some pressure to get it into gear. Goes away soon as it warms up.
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Unread 12-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #8
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My doesnt like to start when it is cold and definately doesnt shift well until it warms up. i figure i could change out the fluids for synthetic but i drive it like once a week in the winter just to keep the rig from sitting and thats about it.

I definately have the same issues however
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Unread 12-19-2007, 07:55 AM   #9
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for an answer to number 1- in the jeep owners manual, it has a bit of a disclaimer or warning of this. It says that in the winter atleast until your jeep warms up that it will run sluggish, that 1st and 2nd gears will do what yours and mine (mine does it too lol) do. So all u can do is start the jeep early to let the engine get warm, engine block warmer, move south, or deal with it lol
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Unread 12-19-2007, 09:45 AM   #10
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Mine does it too, although I don't think its that bad...it makes sense that it shifts worse in the cold (fluid temp), I generally try to keep my shifts minimal until everything gets warm.
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