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Unread 12-01-2009, 01:01 AM   #1
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Installing Detroit locker in Dana 35

Question, before i get hammered on doing this, is the process to install a detroit locker in a d35 for tj difficult or is it as simple as installing an aussie locker. i have a chance to get a locker with shafts (incase i break one) for about the same price i paid for my aussie locker.



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Unread 12-01-2009, 01:04 AM   #2
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first- don't do it
second- it's about 400 times harder than an aussie. You will have to re-gear, which takes many special tools and about 8hrs.
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Unread 12-01-2009, 01:19 AM   #3
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damn i guess i will stick to plan A on the arb for my front in the mean time.
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or you can take the deal and sell it for a slight profit to help pay for something else...
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Unread 12-01-2009, 05:35 AM   #5
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is the Detroit 27 or 30 spline?
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Unread 12-01-2009, 07:37 AM   #6
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I don't think it would be hard. All you need to do is take out your open diff. Take your open diff and detroit to a local shop with a press. Take the bearings and shim packs off the open diff and put them on the detroit and throw it back in. If I had to choose over a detroit or aussie in the rear I'd definately want the detroit.
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27 spline, its used, but i think i will do it right and wait to save for my arb up front and then look for an 8.8 axle from a explorer right? what year should it be and how can i tell since i've never owned an exploder?
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Yep, don't install a locker into a stock Dana 35c axle, it's not strong enough for that.
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damn i guess i will stick to plan A on the arb for my front in the mean time.
I believe with ARBs you will need different carriers for different gears. I would handle you axles and gearing before the locker. If you have stock gears the will probably be 3.73 or less. If you get an ARB now and want to regear latter the ARB you get now may be useless for you later. At least check into this before you start spending $$.
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I don't think it would be hard. All you need to do is take out your open diff. Take your open diff and detroit to a local shop with a press. Take the bearings and shim packs off the open diff and put them on the detroit and throw it back in. If I had to choose over a detroit or aussie in the rear I'd definately want the detroit.
Granted I am no expert, but I doubt two different carriers would require the same shimming. Isn't that why there are shims, because no two are the same and you are stacking tolerances?
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Unread 12-01-2009, 12:19 PM   #11
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Granted I am no expert, but I doubt two different carriers would require the same shimming. Isn't that why there are shims, because no two are the same and you are stacking tolerances?
You are correct.

There may be two out there that are idedenical, but what are the odds you happen to have them.
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Believe it or not. I've done it about 4 times now. If all your doing is moving the ring gear from one carrier to the other you can use the old shim pack and be almost perfect. Don't get me wrong you should check backlash to be sure. I've never had to change one yet. I've switched my front from open to detroit tru trac and now to detroit locker all using the same shim packs. And the rear went from open to e locker using the same shims.
The reason for shims is because of different gear thicknesses and differences in housings. Most carriers are really close to the same specs.
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Wouldn't it be easier carrying and replacing shafts(stronger carrier with the det) than dealing with spiders and cracked carriers?
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