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post #46 of 97 Old 04-05-2010, 03:06 PM
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Perhaps a little heat will make it a little easier for your white collar folk.
How sensitive are the lines themselves to heat? Not sure I trust myself with a torch.


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Now we have to see if those springs settle, and if they do by how much.


Cant wait to hear about how it rides!
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Perhaps a little heat will make it a little easier for your white collar folk.
The brackets we're talking about wrap around rubber/plastic lines. They don't react well to heat.

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Your shaft isn't long enough to handle that kind of droop...
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what happens if a grease fitting does break off?

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The brackets we're talking about wrap around rubber/plastic lines. They don't react well to heat.
Ahh didnt realize you were talking of the ones AROUND The brake line. I thought he was speaking of one in which the brake line attaches to.

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Great looking setup! Also waiting to hear how it rides!

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Great looking setup! Also waiting to hear how it rides!
Thanks.

Hopefully we will have the ride report soon I am getting anxious. The wife and dinner got in the way and I was not able to grease the joints or set the toe-in.

BTW: The steering wheel is straight. I thought that when it was lifted, I would have to adjust the steering wheel

More data:
Front pinion angle (measured on the bottom of the diff, pict below): 4*
Front DS angle: 8.5*
Rear driveshaft angle 10*
Rear pinion angle: 16*

The camera angle shows a different number but this is how I measured the angles:



I'll know soon if I have vibes but do these seem about right for a lifted LJ?

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dont you have to measure the angles at the driveshaft and the pinion yoke??? and not worry about the angle at the bottom of the diff.


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Thanks.

Hopefully we will have the ride report soon I am getting anxious. The wife and dinner got in the way and I was not able to grease the joints or set the toe-in.

BTW: The steering wheel is straight. I thought that when it was lifted, I would have to adjust the steering wheel

More data:
Front pinion angle (measured on the bottom of the diff, pict below): 4*
Front DS angle: 8.5*
Rear driveshaft angle 10*
Rear pinion angle: 16*

The camera angle shows a different number but this is how I measured the angles:



I'll know soon if I have vibes but do these seem about right for a lifted LJ?

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dont you have to measure the angles at the driveshaft and the pinion yoke??? and not worry about the angle at the bottom of the diff.
yes, you have to measure them at the pinion yoke, with the yoke straight up and down.
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If you want to know the pinion angle, measure from one of the two round flat spots on either side of the diff cover. It is exactly perpendicular to the pinion. For your single u-joint setup, you want the output and pinion angles to be parallel or very close to it. You're doing a great job and I commend you on your choice of parts. You'll love the control arms.

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If you want to know the pinion angle, measure from one of the two round flat spots on either side of the diff cover. It is exactly perpendicular to the pinion. For your single u-joint setup, you want the output and pinion angles to be parallel or very close to it. You're doing a great job and I commend you on your choice of parts. You'll love the control arms.
Any hints for getting the output angle without turning the driveshaft (or an easy way to turn it and get it straight)? The rear pinion angle is 10.5* based on the flat spot on the diff.

I got everything greased with Green Grease.


Now to check the toe-in. I made a really quick measurement last night and it came out to something outrageous (like 2") so I must have measured from the wrong spot.
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yes, you have to measure them at the pinion yoke, with the yoke straight up and down.
yup. you can't measure on the cast housing...there is no reference point...

heres how i checked mine (2 quarter sized magnets on the u-joint + angle finder)

More here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/un...ml#post9096706

I have driveline vibrations since I removed my t-case drop (~4.5-5" lift seen by t-case). need to put it back in, or install my 241.
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Thanks for the info

Here thery are now:

Rear pinion - 8.5*


Output pinion - 6.5*


I checked the perpendicular angle as well and they are under 1* from parallel with the ground.
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post #59 of 97 Old 04-06-2010, 10:25 AM
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Looks like you weren't fooling around when you pieced together your kit. Good selection of parts. You should be pleased.

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very nice component selection. now THAT is a complete 3" lift.
Thats how I Roll....

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Very cool... Close to my build. Your's will handle a little nicer on road though. I'm sure you'll enjoy your new lift. The front coil / damper is a perfect setup. I can unseat my rear coils full drop with the N67L, I noticed you picked the N67... Good call.

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The Main Reason I recommend the N67 rears is for uptravel and ride quality.. For those That can relocate the Lower mounts I prefer using the N67L or a full outboard with 12" travel shocks.

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Oh and the rear pass shock cover touches the tailpipe.. Should that be wrapped in some header tape or something like that?
most touch, some don't, relocating the lower mounts outboard will cure that problem completely.

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Well, while many people are out at the Easter Safari in Moab, I am finally going to install my lift. After talking with mudb8, I have decided on this setup that I purchased from Rob's 4 Wheel Drive.
  • Nth 3.0" TJ Front Springs
  • Nth 3.0" TJ Rear Unlimited springs
  • OME n66L front shocks
  • OME n67 rear shocks
  • OME 2.5" rear track bar relocation bracket
  • currie ce9100 upper and lower adjustable JJ CA's
  • currie ce9122f 2" front bumpstop extensions
  • currie ce9120tjs hd front track bar
  • currie/jks ce9141 front disco's
  • currie ce9142 rear sway bar links
  • RE1385 rear bumpstop extensions



I just layed everything out and realized that the upper poly bumpstop was not in the box from Currie. (should be next to the small aluminum spacers) I have sent off an email and hopefully there will be no issues getting them sent over.

Not sure how long it will take me but it should be a great way for me to learn more about the TJ suspension. I have replaced other car suspensions so I know just enough to be dangerous.

Not a great pic since my driveway in angled but here is the stance right now

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3744815892_482c305488.jpg[/IMG

Will post more as the progress happens.
Sorry, I haven't been available for the last several days, I missed out on the whole build..

The Currie upper bumpstop rubber is on the way as of this morning....

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


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I wanted the tires to settle in place before I took the toe measurement so I drove it around the block. No amazing revelation since it was all low speed.

Here are some pics for your enjoyment.

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