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Unread 01-09-2009, 06:11 AM   #1516
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I trust my welds because I'm more than a back yard welder, I went to school for it and got certified and then worked for 2 years as a pipe welder

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Unread 01-09-2009, 12:04 PM   #1517
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What type of Welder do all you guy's use to make your bar work ?

Arc ? Mig ? Tig ?

Do yo trust your weld's to bare the weight of lifting your Jeep .

eg: would you lift your Jeep via the front or rear bar using your Highlift jack ?
I trust my welds. I'm experenced with a mig as I use it a fair amount at work, but I've also fabricated a lot of parts for turbo cars. I tig also, but just not anything as big as a bumper, haha. I really only tig stuff that is small and air/water tight, if I can help it ( or if its stainless ).

The attechment points of the bumper to the jeep are weaker than prob. any one part of any of the bumpers we've posted up lately on the last few pages. I think the underside tie-ins to the frame are really important in the rear b/c the rear bumper attechment points are thin little steel. I used 1/4'' steel to tie my bumper into the bottom of the frame in the rear.

I put so much sweat and time into the rear bumper I built, I said I'd never do it again, its worth the $350 to buy one to me, haha. $22 per 35 hours = over $700. Lucky for me, I did it on the clock, that also meant I had to hammer down before/after working on my bumper. Its also nice to use the shops consumables ( grinder wheels etc ). Plasma cutter is nice too.

As far as welds go, I've already tested mine on my front bumper to my 5.0 conversion 02' jeep when the 4.0L died.

[IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8dc06b3127ccec3230143cef500000010O00OZtHDhsxB7e ***/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D60/ry%3D60/[/IMG]

[IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8dc06b3127ccec32223636fb800000020O30OZtHDhsxB7e ***/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D3/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/[/IMG]

[IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8dc06b3127ccec3236109ce8f00000010O00OZtHDhsxB7e ***/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/[/IMG]

Its part warn winch bumper with some REAL recovery points. We snatched my TJ home for about 35miles with it....
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Unread 01-09-2009, 10:21 PM   #1518
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I use miller
I have a mig arc and tig.
Trained at bcit.

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Unread 01-09-2009, 11:11 PM   #1519
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I use lincoln

got a mig,stick at home

and of course i trust my welds. Its my profession/occupation.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:09 PM   #1520
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Locking storage to replace the rear seat in my wife's DD

I think the all pictures can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06

I hope to convert this version to 16ga steel, but for now, you'll get the idea from this 3/4" plywood version.
It bolts to the floor of my '04TJ using the bolts from the rear seat brackets.
There's a piece of angle iron attached to the rear gate which holds the hatchcover closed when the rear gate is closed. (This way it doen't need seperate locks.)

I used Contractor Lag Screws (sort of deck screws on steriods) and glue for this version

The original had a smaller deck (so it could be pulled in and out as a unit, but I wanted the deck larger to it has to be unscrewed from the frame as part of the removal.

The original had a hinged hatch, but I liked the removable hatch better so this one has two tabs that tuck under the deck in front then it's trapped under the gate angle iron when the rear gate is closed, locking the storage unit.

The individual pictures show the frame
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186936046/
The installed frame in the TJ
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186936996/
With the deck and hatch installed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186946084/
The angle iron on the rear gate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186943468/
Withe th rear gate closed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186938412/
And with the dog's bed (pads from two lawn chairs) in place
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186100151/

In case you're wondering about the blue "string" in the pictures attached to the deck, it's our dog's safety attach point for when the top's off.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:16 PM   #1521
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I think the all pictures can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06

I hope to convert this version to 16ga steel, but for now, you'll get the idea from this 3/4" plywood version.
It bolts to the floor of my '04TJ using the bolts from the rear seat brackets.
There's a piece of angle iron attached to the rear gate which holds the hatchcover closed when the rear gate is closed. (This way it doen't need seperate locks.)

I used Contractor Lag Screws (sort of deck screws on steriods) and glue for this version

The original had a smaller deck (so it could be pulled in and out as a unit, but I wanted the deck larger to it has to be unscrewed from the frame as part of the removal.

The original had a hinged hatch, but I liked the removable hatch better so this one has two tabs that tuck under the deck in front then it's trapped under the gate angle iron when the rear gate is closed, locking the storage unit.

The individual pictures show the frame
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186936046/
The installed frame in the TJ
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186936996/
With the deck and hatch installed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186946084/
The angle iron on the rear gate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186943468/
Withe th rear gate closed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186938412/
And with the dog's bed (pads from two lawn chairs) in place
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34244936@N06/3186100151/

In case you're wondering about the blue "string" in the pictures attached to the deck, it's our dog's safety attach point for when the top's off.
Really? Do we have to have the post that says "Click free! "

Put the IMG tag in front and back of your pics and it doesn't matter if you've had 1 post it will show the picture.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:22 PM   #1522
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I try to use my jobs welders and consumables as much as possible! Haha, I TIG welded almost everything on my bumper. The only things that I MIG welded were the clevis tabs, and the trailer hitch. I prefer TIG, just because there isn't any spatter, and its easy to do intricate work with. Mig is nice because its quick and easy, and stick is nice if you need to lay some serious welds. I really only use arc welding for heavy equipment repairs.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:39 PM   #1523
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Really? Do we have to have the post that says "Click free! "

Put the IMG tag in front and back of your pics and it doesn't matter if you've had 1 post it will show the picture.
Sorry.. Total A**inine question ~ could you write down an example of what you mean by 'IMG TAG' ~ please, never heard what that term before !!

Thanks

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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:41 PM   #1524
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Sorry.. Total A**inine question ~ could you write down an example of what you mean by 'IMG TAG' ~ please, never heard what that term before !!

Thanks

use (IMG) your link here (/IMG) Only use [ instead of (
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:45 PM   #1525
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use (IMG) your link here (/IMG) Only use [ instead of (
use (IMG) your link here (/IMG) Only use [ instead of (

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Unread 01-10-2009, 11:20 PM   #1526
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full corner tube fender fab.
img00113.jpg   img00120.jpg   img00122.jpg  
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Unread 01-10-2009, 11:33 PM   #1527
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hey PBR how did you manage to roll those corners so perfect?
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Unread 01-10-2009, 11:38 PM   #1528
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hey PBR how did you manage to roll those corners so perfect?
the corners are sniper fab. I just made the tube fenders.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 11:56 PM   #1529
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I try to use my jobs welders and consumables as much as possible! Haha, I TIG welded almost everything on my bumper. The only things that I MIG welded were the clevis tabs, and the trailer hitch. I prefer TIG, just because there isn't any spatter, and its easy to do intricate work with. Mig is nice because its quick and easy, and stick is nice if you need to lay some serious welds. I really only use arc welding for heavy equipment repairs.
You can lay serious welds with MIG... Run some .045 dual core like I did when I built rail cars (which carried many tons of weight...)

Also, if MIG it tuned right (VERY fine tuning) there will be zero spatter. Even then if there is any it scratches right off with a slag hammer...

Very nice welds though. I wish I would have learned TIG

Someday!
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Unread 01-11-2009, 01:01 PM   #1530
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Adjustable rear upper control arms. More details here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/building-ucas-joint-questions-640750/

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