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Unread 02-27-2013, 11:58 AM   #151
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For sure! Right now it's a pipe dream. In reality, I'll be slapping some new clevites in the factory mounts and run it for a while. I'll be picking up some upper arms next week from the MC boys.
That should work just fine for you. You're not gonna be able to run long enough shocks to hit the misalignment limits of the MC bushings at the frame end.

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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:11 PM   #152
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That should work just fine for you. You're not gonna be able to run long enough shocks to hit the misalignment limits of the MC bushings at the frame end.
It'll do for now for the kind of wheelin I do. I can't touch some of the stuff you Indy guys tackle!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:14 PM   #153
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I'd like to hear how inserting the new clevites in the axle mounts goes for you (mostly the casting side). If they are anything like the interference fit of pushing the lower arm clevites into RE control arms, that took all the push my 20 ton press could muster.
I'll be documenting the swap in my build thread. Hoping that some all thread, a couple of well placed sockets, and some patience will get-r-done.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:07 PM   #154
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I'd like to hear how inserting the new clevites in the axle mounts goes for you (mostly the casting side). If they are anything like the interference fit of pushing the lower arm clevites into RE control arms, that took all the push my 20 ton press could muster.
You mean the front upper CA bushings on the axle end? Those were fairly easy. I burned them with a torch until the center roll pin slid out, then hit them with a sawzall on the top and bottom. After that I hammered a screw driver in between the bushing and the hole to bend them in. As soon as you get them bent a little they pop right out. Then the new ones were hammered in with a block of wood and big hand sledge.

One of the funniest things I've seen so far working on my Jeep was when one of the roll pins had decided it had enough, made a loud *ZING* sound and forcibly shot out of the bushing right in the middle of heating it. It must have been under a lot of tension that released once the rubber around it got hot.
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One of the funniest things I've seen so far working on my Jeep was when one of the roll pins had decided it had enough, made a loud *ZING* sound and forcibly shot out of the bushing right in the middle of heating it. It must have been under a lot of tension that released once the rubber around it got hot.
Yep, every one of those I've ever burned out have shot the sleeve out. I just let them burn until the rubber is all but gone then punch the outer sleeve out.
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I'll be documenting the swap in my build thread. Hoping that some all thread, a couple of well placed sockets, and some patience will get-r-done.
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You mean the front upper CA bushings on the axle end? Those were fairly easy. I burned them with a torch until the center roll pin slid out, then hit them with a sawzall on the top and bottom. After that I hammered a screw driver in between the bushing and the hole to bend them in. As soon as you get them bent a little they pop right out. Then the new ones were hammered in with a block of wood and big hand sledge.

One of the funniest things I've seen so far working on my Jeep was when one of the roll pins had decided it had enough, made a loud *ZING* sound and forcibly shot out of the bushing right in the middle of heating it. It must have been under a lot of tension that released once the rubber around it got hot.
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Yep, every one of those I've ever burned out have shot the sleeve out. I just let them burn until the rubber is all but gone then punch the outer sleeve out.
Thanks for the info. I can just imagine a propane torch (I don't have a cutting torch) and those bushings would be a stinky event. Like all my other work, has to be in the garage so guess I better plan on having the side door open too and hope for a breezy day. Thanks again, sorry again to detour from your MC joint thread.
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It's a stinky and nasty affair- I have only had trouble getting the bushing above the pumpkin out when the axle is installed in a jeep... Otherwise there seems to be a voodoo of ease when the axle is out! Burn out the center bushing, ball joint press it out, the sawzall two cuts on the sleeve and it will hammer out. It's the only way I have ever been able to get them out!

Mc duroflex uppers on the axle would be really cool! The currie housing kit is just so easy to install- I am using the currie driver upper and artec truss with currie pass upper. A bare truss and mc housing might install in the artec truss pass side pretty easy. Driver side upper would have to be custom machined with one of mc housing kits.
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I can't find much info on Metalcloak's website, but does anyone know the specific type of lubricant needed between the bushing and the barrel? I know you can't use regular chassis grease.
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[QUOTE="btn;15072218"]I can't find much info on Metalcloak's website, but does anyone know the specific type of lubricant needed between the bushing and the barrel? I know you can't use regular chassis grease.[/QUOTE/] I believe MC sends the grease with the joint. Or thats what they said in the video Imped linked.

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I can't find much info on Metalcloak's website, but does anyone know the specific type of lubricant needed between the bushing and the barrel? I know you can't use regular chassis grease.[/QUOTE/] I believe MC sends the grease with the joint. Or thats what they said in the video Imped linked.

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They didn't in my order anyway. Even if they included some, I'd like to have extra on hand.
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If I am not mistaken the same grease which does not attack polyraces (or JJ or Flex Joints) would do.

Daystar has some silicon based teflon grease for their joints ... quite expensive, but only needed once in a while.

DuPont has has some silicon/teflon grease too ...
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Ordered a set for the front this morning, based on this review. I will say that already I'm impressed with there customer service... Got a call from Will at Metalcloak confirming the order soon after placing it. Very professional and informative, and un-expected. Looking forward to receiving them.
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Ordered a set for the front this morning, based on this review. I will say that already I'm impressed with there customer service... Got a call from Will at Metalcloak confirming the order soon after placing it. Very professional and informative, and un-expected. Looking forward to receiving them.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #164
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