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Unread 02-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #136
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Yes you have to cut off the jj housing and use mc's housings in its place....

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Unread 02-26-2013, 01:54 PM   #137
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I think I'd just leave the front uppers with Johnny joints & replace the rest. I already have replaced the axle mount on my Jeep so it wouldn't be worth the minimal improvement for me.
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Unread 02-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #138
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Could you just order this from Savvy without the JJ and use this Duroflex? Or am I missing something here?
It wouldn't work. You would have to either fab your own or buy a prefabbed set of upper axle control arm mounts....like the Clayton ones.........request them to come without the JJ housings welded on so that you could weld on the MC duroflex housings........thats how you can run duroflex bushings up front at the top axle mounts.
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Unread 02-26-2013, 02:50 PM   #139
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I think I'd just leave the front uppers with Johnny joints & replace the rest. I already have replaced the axle mounts on my Jeep so it wouldn't be worth the minimal improvement for me.
^^ This is what I'm thinking of doing. I'm just wondering though how it would ride with Duroflex uppers/lowers in the rear but only Duroflex lowers in the front (keeping all 4 JJ uppers)? I wouldn't want the rear end considerably softer than the front end.
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Unread 02-26-2013, 02:58 PM   #140
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Someone needs to make a truss that has tab style bracket mounts for the uppers, then just buy arms with joints at both ends. A truss would simplify having to weld to the cast diff housing, make it stronger, and eliminate the Clevites.

Something like this....
http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...roducts_id/358
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Unread 02-26-2013, 06:48 PM   #141
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Someone needs to make a truss that has tab style bracket mounts for the uppers, then just buy arms with joints at both ends. A truss would simplify having to weld to the cast diff housing, make it stronger, and eliminate the Clevites.

Something like this....
http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...roducts_id/358
That's how I plan to mount my 3 link. Clayton bridge without the link mount. Probably use an artec flat link mount instead.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 04:44 AM   #142
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Someone needs to make a truss that has tab style bracket mounts for the uppers, then just buy arms with joints at both ends. A truss would simplify having to weld to the cast diff housing, make it stronger, and eliminate the Clevites.

Something like this....
http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...roducts_id/358
I know it's done quite a bit with D60 builds. Everything I've read says properly welding mild to cast is a PITA. Professionals prefer brazing rather than welding.
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I know it's done quite a bit with D60 builds. Everything I've read says properly welding mild to cast is a PITA. Professionals prefer brazing rather than welding.
It welds to the tubes.

I built a simple bridge from 1/2" steel for next to nothing and cut some tabs out of 5/16" plate I had sitting in my steel bin.

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Unread 02-27-2013, 09:21 AM   #144
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I guess it's not rocket science. A bridge like that should be simple enough. How did you weld the bridge to the driver side. There's not much axle tube to weld to between the housing and the spring perch mount.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 09:26 AM   #145
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I guess it's not rocket science. A bridge like that should be simple enough. How did you weld the bridge to the driver side. There's not much axle tube to weld to between the housing and the spring perch mount.
Build new coil buckets that tie into the truss.
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I guess it's not rocket science. A bridge like that should be simple enough. How did you weld the bridge to the driver side. There's not much axle tube to weld to between the housing and the spring perch mount.
There's not a bracket on that axle that's stock....it was bare tube before I started. The coil buckets and truss tie into each other on the short tube.
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Guess I better hit the wrecking yards and find a HP30 to practice on, lol!
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If you plan on doing much welding to a 30, I'd recommend sleeving the tubes to help dissipate that heat out first....and go nice and slow.
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If you plan on doing much welding to a 30, I'd recommend sleeving the tubes to help dissipate that heat out first....and go nice and slow.
For sure! Right now it's a pipe dream. In reality, I'll be slapping some new clevites in the factory mounts and run it for a while. I'll be picking up some upper arms next week from the MC boys.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 10:35 AM   #150
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For sure! Right now it's a pipe dream. In reality, I'll be slapping some new clevites in the factory mounts and run it for a while. I'll be picking up some upper arms next week from the MC boys.
I'd like to hear how inserting the new clevites in the axle mounts goes for you (mostly the casting side). If they are anything like the interference fit of pushing the lower arm clevites into RE control arms, that took all the push my 20 ton press could muster.
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