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Unread 01-27-2009, 10:23 AM   #1
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how do lockers work?

I am thinking about getting gears and a locker/ lockers for my 97 TJ. It is a 4 cyl. and I will be running 33's. What gear and locker set up should I run? I have read that some just run a locker in the front diff. How does that work? How will it handle on the street with just a front diff locker?

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Unread 01-27-2009, 10:26 AM   #2
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Did search, but didnt see that one.... Thanks!
What about gearing for my set up? what would you recommend?
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You can install a front locker without it affecting your steering on the street in 2wd at all, they only lock up hard when you're in 4x4. Good front lockers include the No-Slip, Aussie, and Lockright. The Aussie and Lockright will, at most click a bit during turns when you're in 2wd, the No-Slip (about $100 more) won't even do that... it's virtually silent and undetectable in 2wd.

Don't lock your rear axle, it's a Dana 35c and it's not strong enough for a locker.

For 33" tires, your 2.5L engine, and a 5-speed manual transmission, regear to 4.88... do NOT go to 4.56 which would only be correct for the 4.0L engine. 4.88 is ideal for your rig and 33" tires.
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Where is the best (cheapest) place to buy gears and lockers on the internet?
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Don't buy the gears over the internet, have the installer provide them. Just know what you can buy them for on the internet and then negotiate with the installer for a reasonable discount on the parts to get the price a little closer. Most installers will discount the parts to get the labor $$$.

If you provided the parts to the installer and something went wrong during or after the installation, which DOES happen, he'd just blame the parts you provided and you'd have to take care of replacing the parts and paying him again to reinstall them. If the installer provides the parts, his warranty will cover everything, parts and labor. There's a lot of peace of mind you'll gain with that.
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I just installed my Aussie Locker this last weekend. No problems on road in 2wd. Some clicking and ratcheting. Nothing big though. I do feel a slight difference in the steering. It feels more firm. Could just be me though. I got mine at northridge4x4.com $269 free shipping and no tax. They shipped the same day.
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Im gonna hi-jack the thread for a second....I DD my rig, welding up the front is not a good idea correct? that would affect the steering am I correct on this?
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Im gonna hi-jack the thread for a second....I DD my rig, welding up the front is not a good idea correct? that would affect the steering am I correct on this?
That is correct, welding the front spider gears to make what is known as a "Lincoln Locker" would make steerng on the street extremely difficult. And there in Georgia where the roads can ice up, you'd hate it. Don't do it.
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that would be correct.... welded gears are the same as a solid spool.... there is never any give...... wouldnt want to do that to a daily driver
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I went to look at lockers and gears online..... some of them say that they only fit a carrier higher or lower that a certain gear ratio..... how do I know if I fall into that category without tearing it apart to check?
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Your 2.5L TJ came with 4.10 gearing so you won't need new carriers for a lower ratio like 4.88. Read post #7 above thoroughly though, I don't advise buying your own gears if you are not going to install them yourself which shouldn't be done unless you know what you're doing with R&P installations.
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jerry saves the day...yet again, i also have an aussie in the front best 250ish ive ever spent
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I do plan on installing myself.... I am a do-it-yourselfer.... I cant see paying somebody else that kind of money to do something when it could be spent on more jeep parts ya know. I appriciate you help and info. I have installed gears and spools into toyota axels, and also into a chevy 12 bolt.... im guessing that jeep axels are prolly more like doing the chevy axel being that there is not a pumpkin to remove and work on......?
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