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Unread 04-12-2006, 03:38 PM   #1
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Horn not working......not wires, fuse or relay.

Have a '98 TJ that the horn just stopped working. I've checked the wiring, fuse and relay but still no horn. Anyone have any ideas?

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Unread 04-12-2006, 03:39 PM   #2
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Check the contacts in the steering wheel, what actually contacts when you push on it, they could be not making a good connection.
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Unread 04-12-2006, 03:41 PM   #3
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could be the airbag clockspring...there are other writeups...HERE is one.

like anything else, pretty expensive if done by dealership

EDIT: When my brother had this problem on his XJ, we just mounted a new horn button on the dash to keep him legal...it was a much cheaper solution.
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Unread 04-12-2006, 03:49 PM   #4
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Check the contacts in the steering wheel, what actually contacts when you push on it, they could be not making a good connection.
Is it possible to do this myself and not disturb the airbag?
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Unread 04-12-2006, 03:57 PM   #5
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Have someone push the horn button repeatedly on-off while you measure on the horn relay to see if it's getting anything from the horn button. One side of the relay needs 12 volts, the other side needs a ground. If it's getting both and the horn isn't getting 12 volts, the relay is bad. If the horn is getting 12 volts, the horn is bad.
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Sounds like the clockspring There was a service bulletin for it.

I had to replace mine. The airbag comes out easily and it stays contained. That being said, I wouldn't play catch with it once it's out or anything like that.
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Have someone push the horn button repeatedly on-off while you measure on the horn relay to see if it's getting anything from the horn button. One side of the relay needs 12 volts, the other side needs a ground. If it's getting both and the horn isn't getting 12 volts, the relay is bad. If the horn is getting 12 volts, the horn is bad.
I replaced the relay and it still doesn't work.........so i'm looking at other options.
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Sounds like the clockspring There was a service bulletin for it.

I had to replace mine. The airbag comes out easily and it stays contained. That being said, I wouldn't play catch with it once it's out or anything like that.
So how hard is the Clockspring to change yourself?
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I replaced the relay and it still doesn't work.........so i'm looking at other options.
Sure but did you troubleshoot the horn circuit like I suggested?
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Not to hijack, but since we're on the topic... what if the horn goes off randomly and will not shut off. I had to pull the relay just to make it stop. Any ideas guys??
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Sure but did you troubleshoot the horn circuit like I suggested?
No.....I'll give that a try.

Thanks!
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"So how hard is the Clockspring to change yourself?"

It's been a few years, but I remember it being very easy. You may need a steering wheel puller. I remember borrowing one, but can't remember if I used it. I think the Haynes manual had a section on pulling it apart. The part was between $60 and $100, and I got it from the dealer.

Sorry, but I can't really remember the details. The airbag comes out easily, and in one piece, then I think the clock spring is right under it.

It's not a repair to be scared of. That's coming from someone who is a true novice.
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"So how hard is the Clockspring to change yourself?"

It's been a few years, but I remember it being very easy. You may need a steering wheel puller. I remember borrowing one, but can't remember if I used it. I think the Haynes manual had a section on pulling it apart. The part was between $60 and $100, and I got it from the dealer.

Sorry, but I can't really remember the details. The airbag comes out easily, and in one piece, then I think the clock spring is right under it.

It's not a repair to be scared of. That's coming from someone who is a true novice.
Great....Thanks!
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