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post #1 of 13 Old 02-09-2006, 07:20 AM Thread Starter
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HELP TJ wanders all over the road??

I bought a 97 TJ and don't know alot about it. It has a 4 " trailmaster lift and 33's. I have replaced the steering box and it has new tires. It still wanders on the road quite a bit. It has the factory track bar and it appears worn bad to me. Could this be causing this problem? I am going to replace the track bar with an adjustable pretty soon. Is there anything else I can look at to find the problem? I don't know if it has a drop pitman or not, but it appears factory to me.

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post #2 of 13 Old 02-09-2006, 07:25 AM
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You should be ok with or without a drop pitman arm on 4" lift. I think you will find that your track bar is the culprit. Although, I would make sure everything's sured up all around (sawy bar, rear track bar) Is the rear track bar adjustable or does it have a relocation bracket or stock?

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I bought a 97 TJ and don't know alot about it. It has a 4 " trailmaster lift and 33's. I have replaced the steering box and it has new tires. It still wanders on the road quite a bit. It has the factory track bar and it appears worn bad to me. Could this be causing this problem? I am going to replace the track bar with an adjustable pretty soon. Is there anything else I can look at to find the problem? I don't know if it has a drop pitman or not, but it appears factory to me.
Can be lots of stuff.. bad shocks, cheap tire brand, worn out bushings.

Trackbar replacement is a good thing to start with.

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You mentioned new tires. Check the pressure. Get em down to the 25-30 range since most tire shops never inflate them properly. An overinflated tire jumps all over the place.

I would consider the trackbar 2nd.

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You should be ok with or without a drop pitman arm on 4" lift. I think you will find that your track bar is the culprit. Although, I would make sure everything's sured up all around (sawy bar, rear track bar) Is the rear track bar adjustable or does it have a relocation bracket or stock?
This statement couldn't be any further from the truth. If you're riding on only 4 inches of lift and you have a dropped pitman arm with out a track bar relocator bracket, you WILL NOT be ok. You will experience significant bumpsteer.

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I just did a lift install and somehow neglected to get the track bar all the way tight. My rig wandered all over the road. Tightened it up, and all was good.

On a side note, if you toe in (Alignment) isn't set properly it will also do the same thing.

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Either drop pitman arm and trackbar bracket, or just adjustable track bar. You have to keep drag link and track bar parralel to not experience bumpsteer.

Is the alignment ok? I think toe in could affect wandering....

To check the trackbar, have someone in the jeep turn the steering wheel back and forth while you look at the car head on from the front. If the axle/wheels shift relative to the body to the right or left, this could signify the trackbar being the culprit.
I would also check the steering links....

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Either drop pitman arm and trackbar bracket, or just adjustable track bar. You have to keep drag link and track bar parralel to not experience bumpsteer.

Is the alignment ok? I think toe in could affect wandering....

To check the trackbar, have someone in the jeep turn the steering wheel back and forth while you look at the car head on from the front. If the axle/wheels shift relative to the body to the right or left, this could signify the trackbar being the culprit.
I would also check the steering links....

I have done this, and the track bar moves up and down where it connects to the body. It seems to move up and down maybe an 1/8 or so. I torqued it to 70 ft lbs and it still does this. Is that a sign it is worn out. I am going to have it aligned as soon as I get a new track bar. It appears stock on the rear track bar to me.
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My Jeep did the exact same thing as you describe, and the ball joint on the trackbar was shot and all "warbled" out. I replaced the trackbar and the jeep drove like new.
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funny, every Jeep I've ever driven wandered all over the road to some extent!

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I put a 2" re bb lift and put 32" kumo on and it is all over the place. I hate this BB lift. Maybe it is the RE shocks. The cheap ones you know.
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I would start with the alignment. Easy and cheap. You can do it yourself in 5 minutes. Look in the FAQ (stickie at the top of the section).

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This statement couldn't be any further from the truth. If you're riding on only 4 inches of lift and you have a dropped pitman arm with out a track bar relocator bracket, you WILL NOT be ok. You will experience significant bumpsteer.
I agree, you need the drop pitman arm to keep the geometry of each bar true to the other. At four inches you need to make sure you use all the extensions for them. Also if you went up to 33" tires your factory steering stabilizer is useless. I had to upgrade mine even at 32".
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