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Unread 08-28-2013, 07:50 AM   #16
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there's not much a big f'n pipe wrench can't do... 'specially with a 6' pipe on it.



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Unread 08-28-2013, 09:10 AM   #17
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A security torx-head bolt is easily turned into a non-security torx-head bolt with nothing more than a small punch (or screwdriver) and hammer. The security pin in the center of the torx-opening is brittle and is easily snapped off making the bolt easily removable with a standard torx socket. This is how I have removed factory rollcage pieces without problem.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 09:21 AM   #18
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A security torx-head bolt is easily turned into a non-security torx-head bolt with nothing more than a small punch (or screwdriver) and hammer. The security pin in the center of the torx-opening is brittle and is easily snapped off making the bolt easily removable with a standard torx socket. This is how I have removed factory rollcage pieces without problem.
Depends on the lot number I suspect. I've been able to snap some of them out and others they just bend over and you can't easily get enough back and forth on them to break them out.

Easiest way I've found for those is like others have said, big pair of vise grips or small pipe wrench both of which always work.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #19
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I have never done it but I bet many a Dremel tool bit can cut those posts out. Not the cutting wheel type but the little carbide ones.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 10:12 AM   #20
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You won't have a problem if you use quality tools. At the very least, you should get a set of GearWrench tamperproof torx bits.
Very true. I have a good set of Torx bits. Just not for a security Torx. I tried to bust the little pin out of mine also and failed. I refused to buy a specialty bit for only two bolts on my Jeep that would never go back on once removed.

Thankfully, I had a f'n pipe wrench handy. They came right out.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 10:18 AM   #21
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Yes, I do. And most hillbillies I know clamp these onto ratchets or wrenches.

I don't see what's so hard about using a ratchet and socket.
This is funny because I don't think you do.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 10:47 AM   #22
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there's not much a big f'n pipe wrench can't do... 'specially with a 6' pipe on it.

I can tell you live in PA (especially after seeing your build thread). That picture reminds me of most tie rod end removals.

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This is funny because I don't think you do.
Yeah...it's hysterical.

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I'll just clarify my statement. If you're in a position where a 1/2" drive ratchet is required, and there are no wrenches or pipes available to fit the handle, and the pipe wrench you do have won't fit in the space provided, you simply use the pipe wrench on the end of the ratchet. Is it the most efficient? No. But if there is a bolt or nut frozen solid from 10 years of PA rust, and that's all you have to work with (which, I was assuming the OP was limited on tools, and not being familiar with the location of the bolts in question I said what I did), then you have to make do.

I know what a pipe wrench is. I know how to use one. I know it has countless amounts of ways to be used. What I don't understand is why everyone feels it necessary to hang onto a statement and keep bringing it up in a thread.

Now, moving on...

Clearly the OP figured it out since he hasn't posted back in this thread.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 10:52 AM   #23
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Another solution (if all these easier solutions fail) is to use an angle grinder and cut a slit through the center, and treat it like a very large flathead screw.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 12:58 PM   #24
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Another solution (if all these easier solutions fail) is to use an angle grinder and cut a slit through the center, and treat it like a very large flathead screw.
Flat head screws come in many different drive configurations included but not limited to Allen, Torx, Phillps, and slotted.

Which did you mean?
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Unread 08-28-2013, 01:04 PM   #25
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Flat head screws come in many different drive configurations included but not limited to Allen, Torx, Phillps, and slotted.

Which did you mean?
Sounds like he's talking about a simple blade/flat screwdriver head....so you cut a slot in the bolt head and use a flat blade screwdriver in the cut groove

I don't believe he is referring to a countersunk type screw
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Unread 08-28-2013, 01:13 PM   #26
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Sounds like he's talking about a simple blade/flat screwdriver head....so you cut a slot in the bolt head and use a flat blade screwdriver in the cut groove

I don't believe he is referring to a countersunk type screw
If I agree to purchase something from you for X amount of dollars, can I assume you will be satisfied if my nomenclature for dollars is clams and I bring you a bucket of them?

Or would you prefer that I stick to more accurate terms?

I have 500 Allen head cap screws in my garage that are 5" long in 1/2-13. The reason they are there is because someone didn't know the difference in how to call out a fastener and assumed that a hex head cap screw was the same as hex drive. They are not the same.
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I had to heat my security torx bolts red how to get them out with a big f'n pipe wrench. Maybe mine had set out too much, but there is no way any torx bit was gonna get them out.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 04:28 PM   #28
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Any update if you got them off JeepJosh, regardless of the method lol
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Flat head screws come in many different drive configurations included but not limited to Allen, Torx, Phillps, and slotted.

Which did you mean?
I assumed it was self explanatory considering said slit, but there are lesser evils than requesting clarity.

I did indeed mean a slotted head screw, often referred to in the vernacular when differentiating it from the other common household bit driver, the Phillips Head (1,2,3), as a 'flat head'
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Unread 08-28-2013, 06:37 PM   #30
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I assumed it was self explanatory considering said slit, but there are lesser evils than requesting clarity.

I did indeed mean a slotted head screw, often referred to in the vernacular when differentiating it from the other common household bit driver, the Phillips Head (1,2,3), as a 'flat head'
Had a similar conversation the other day. The gentleman helping me looked in the screwdriver drawer and pronounced he was after a slotted screwdriver. I explained that I didn't have any. He pointed to the flat blade versions and said that is what they were because that is what they were used on.

I followed him a moment later and handed him a combination wrench and told him the next time he was wadded up under the rig and really needed a wrench, he had to ask for a hex head cap screw or a hex nut if we are going to name them by what they are used on.
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