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Unread 08-11-2010, 09:03 AM   #16
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FWIW, I have had excellent service from Dynatrac. Very good company as is Currie.

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Unread 08-11-2010, 10:24 AM   #17
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Well that's interesting because I run my 35's mainly and have a 60 in the rear with no "suffering" from ground clearance issues. However, it is a RockJock so that design does make a difference. If it were a regular one ton 60 pulled from a Ford or something then yes, I'd be suffering.
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Theres a pair of 60's here from an 78 f250 for sale. look on the forsale part of this site. 410 gears. front and rear for like only 1200 bucks or so.
But the issue is, I just built a RJ60 rearend on Currie's site and it cost $4200 fully built. And a front RJ60 is $6000 on Currie's site...that's $10k (Edited)

Now with what mountainman posted, you can get front and rear for $1200, add in brackets and lockers and you're only in it for around $3500.

That is why I said I'd run no less tha 40s. I don't have the extra cash to pay three times as much for RJ60s...Which is why I am building my 9" rather than buying it...it'll cost half as much in the end.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 11:04 AM   #18
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But the issue is, I just built a RJ60 rearend on Currie's site and it cost $4200 fully built. And a front RJ60 is $6000 on Currie's site...that's $10k (Edited)

Now with what mountainman posted, you can get front and rear for $1200, add in brackets and lockers and you're only in it for around $3500.

That is why I said I'd run no less tha 40s. I don't have the extra cash to pay three times as much for RJ60s...Which is why I am building my 9" rather than buying it...it'll cost half as much in the end.

I actually just picked up a HP44 and 9" that will probably go into the Cherokee. After brackets and mounts to make them bolt into the Cherokee, gears, locker, brakes etc/...It will still be expensive. But yes, probably less than RJ's.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 11:20 AM   #19
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I actually just picked up a HP44 and 9" that will probably go into the Cherokee. After brackets and mounts to make them bolt into the Cherokee, gears, locker, brakes etc/...It will still be expensive. But yes, probably less than RJ's.
I've priced out my 9" build with a nodular 3.25" big bearing 3rd member, detroit locker, custom length 35 spline shafts (Moser) and disc brake conversion to still come in at under $2k. And you can build a HP44 for almost nothing...just freshen it up, and throw on some brackets (regear obviously) and you're still only into it for a couple hundred.

What year Ford did you get the HP44 from?
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Unread 08-11-2010, 11:59 AM   #20
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Just my opinion, but a don't see a need for 60's or even a 9in if he wants to stick with 35's, unless he plans a hemi swap in addition to 35's. If he does a super 44 kit in the rear, and some superior evo shafts up front with an arb, it'll be hard to break the shafts unless he goes crazy with the skinny pedal. If he was to get 60's, why stop at 35's when he could run 39-42in tires on those axles? I'll eventually go to 1 ton axles when i'm out of college and will run 39+ tires, for now i'll stick with chromo shafts and will run 35's.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 12:17 PM   #21
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I know rocks are brutal on axles but mud isn't a whole lot easier. I can tell you on the front end of my old chevy I had a D44 HP and I got that truck airborn and beat the ever loving tar out of that axle on 35's with a truck that weighed in probably over 6,000 lbs with a 350hp v8 I hear a lot that if you are going 37's you may want a 9" so look for a thread on here that compares the super 35 or dana 44 I started it ..it's locked now but there's a site where you can build your own 9" front or rear. East Coast gear I think was the company but the pricing was idea and you can run 44's on a 9" well at least i'll say I know a lot of guys that run 44"s on a 9" in Mudd trucks
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Unread 08-11-2010, 12:23 PM   #22
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I know rocks are brutal on axles but mud isn't a whole lot easier. I can tell you on the front end of my old chevy I had a D44 HP and I got that truck airborn and beat the ever loving tar out of that axle on 35's with a truck that weighed in probably over 6,000 lbs with a 350hp v8 I hear a lot that if you are going 37's you may want a 9" so look for a thread on here that compares the super 35 or dana 44 I started it ..it's locked now but there's a site where you can build your own 9" front or rear. East Coast gear I think was the company but the pricing was idea and you can run 44's on a 9" well at least i'll say I know a lot of guys that run 44"s on a 9" in Mudd trucks
You can build a 9" to take almost anything...but I'd still be hesitant to run 44s. Not saying your guys don't run 44s. But I personally would rather run a d70 with that tire size.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 12:24 PM   #23
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I could be wrong, but your 5 x 4.5 WE wheels will not have a large enough bore opening for a front 44/60/9/609 axle.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 01:42 PM   #24
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yeah I think Philip figured out the problem and why you don't see smaller Lug patterns available.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 03:26 PM   #25
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Great input guys and next week the lift will be done. I pick up the Jeep on Monday or Tuesday. I have not purchased tires as of yet. I may change the springs to 4.5" units and go with 35" tires and later do the larger axles when the new 4.9 Stroker and built transmission goes in. Then if I want, I can go to the 37's and 5.5 springs and what ever axles. It seems that the 35's will be ok with the stock axles for now, but I like the idea of doing the sleeve kit, axles, gears and sell them later when I get the bigger axles. The main idea for me is that I am spending so much for other things that the Jeep needs and if I can hold out another year or so it will save me the a** kicking I will get from the wife for spending $30K on a Jeep. Yes, you all know what I'm talking about. If I don't hide it, I will have to buy her the MB GL550 she wants so bad. It does not matter that what I am spending is not even close to the $75K this stupid MB cost. Anyway, I don't want to get started on that. It will be easier to start another thread.

Currie tells me that the HP60 can be ordered with the 4.5 lug pattern. However, the front will have to get the Vanco big brake kit to keep the 4.5 and I cannot use hubs. Not really a big deal, but I already spent $1700 on wheels. I will try to make this work since I already made the mistake to purchase the Dave's Customs Unlimited brake booster & larger master cyl. kit. (Please see my post on this forum).
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Unread 08-11-2010, 06:07 PM   #26
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I hate to pimp out friends but Savvy off road.. talk to them he can tell you and help you direct yourself on getting parts that will not just work but work well together. I know I just drove his Dodge 1500 disc brakes he installed on the LJ and It breaks like a Lotus
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