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post #1 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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HELP! Broke a lug nut in half? Wheel Stuck On

Broke a factory lug nut in half. Using a 3/4 inch socket and a bar I broke the top part of the lug nut off. The conical lower portion of the lug nut is stuck in the wheel and still threaded onto the stud. The entire section of the lug nut that the socket fits over broke off into the socket. I have aluminum stock style sport wheels on a 98 so the conical part of the lug nut is really buried in there. Any advice or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I don't mind getting a new stud pressed in but I do not want to ruin the rim getting it off.

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post #2 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 10:50 AM
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When I did my lift my factory lugs were stripping. I hammered on a smaller socket and that worked. Some use a cross bar and hammer it on, others use air hammer to loosen it. I would try the smaller socket first and see how you make out.
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post #3 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 10:54 AM
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You may have to use an easy out. Drill the hole into the existing lug and then put the easy out into that and try and get it out. I have done this on exhaust manifold bolts in the past. Not sure if the lugs are hardened or not so that could be a tricky one.
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post #4 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 11:16 AM
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the studs are pretty soft.

you're going to have to drill it out and hope you get it straight.

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Maybe try to put a couple standard type lug nuts on there and break off the lug bolt, as close to flush with the lug nut as possibe. Drill out the remainder of the bolt just deep enough to remove the lug nut. Punch out the remainder of the stud and replace?

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I would just drill through the stud. Get incrementally larger on the drill bit until the stud is almost gone and the nut is loose. It should be easy enough to knock the rest of the stud out. Just be carefup not to drill the hole in the hub or you will have to find a wheel stud with over sized knurles. And even then you may have issues if you drilled off center...

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I'd rather try to drill through 3/8" than 1". If you drill crooked or break a bit, you'll end up having to break it off any way. Who knows, maybe it'll break off below the broken lug.

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post #8 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 11:51 AM
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IF you have a D35 and you don't want to mess with trying to drill out the stud you could always just remove the axle shaft with the wheel/tire/brake drum still attached. Then grind the back side off the stud and pound it out from the back side. I know that sounds like over kill but if drilling isn't working for you, and you can't get a wrench on it that might be the only other option.

If you have room then try to weld the inside of a nut to the remaining portion of the stud.

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post #9 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 12:35 PM
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I've used a hammer and chisel to cut the nut off...

...used a cutting torch before too, but nicked the wheel a bit.

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IF you have a D35 and you don't want to mess with trying to drill out the stud you could always just remove the axle shaft with the wheel/tire/brake drum still attached. Then grind the back side off the stud and pound it out from the back side. I know that sounds like over kill but if drilling isn't working for you, and you can't get a wrench on it that might be the only other option.

If you have room then try to weld the inside of a nut to the remaining portion of the stud.
I think this is a lot of work...
But will do the least amount of damage. Drill through it untill the walls of the stud get thin anough to break it... I would try that first but if things are not right... I think grinding off the back side of the stud will do the job the best.

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just to be clear here, you arent saying you just broke the outer shell of the 2 peice lugs off right?

if all you broke off is the thin outer chrome shell, its an 18mm nut under that.

just making sure

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When I bought my jeep i didnt have the key for the locking lug nuts the PO had on it and I took it to a local tire shop and they cut off all five (one on each tire plus the spare) locking nuts for 25$. When they finished there wasnt a single nick on the rims or the wheel studs.

So you could probably find a local tire place to do it and save yourself the headache...
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I second a chisel and hammer. I've removed seized lug nuts this way before. It was a major PITA.

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It sounds to me like half the people that are replying must have a read a different post then I did. CLEARLY he states that the lug nut broke in such a fashion that only the very bottom tapered portion of the lug nut is left. AND its on an aluminum wheel - so it will be very difficult to get in there to chisel it. Things like hammering on a smaller socket arent even an option....

OP - is this on the front or back? If its the back AND a D35 - the best way is to grind the back of the stud and pound it through - as suggested above. If its a D44 or in the front - my recommendation is to VERY carefully make some sort of a device to pound the stud through from the front side - effectively stripping the few threads that are left on the taper area of the lug nut. It should only be 2 to 3 threads, so I think with a 5lb hand sledge and some careful whacking - you should be able to break that nut. Good luck!

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post #15 of 32 Old 08-30-2010, 02:01 PM
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Happened to me last fall. Local Goodyear store charged me $30 to drill out and replace the stud. Lugnut was another couple dollars.
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