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Unread 03-10-2011, 01:51 AM   #1
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hard to shift

Hey guys. Got a 97 wrangler. 4cyl 5spd. Its really hard to get it into gear. Like most of the time I've really gotta force it into gear.... Any suggestions. The jeep has 225000miles

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Unread 03-10-2011, 05:56 AM   #2
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Does it grind when you try shifting into a gear or is it just stiff? Does it shift any differently when the engine isn't running?
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Unread 03-10-2011, 07:35 AM   #3
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It only grinds going into reverse. When the engine is off it shifts effortlessly. Just like its suppose to.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 12:28 PM   #4
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My jeep has a similar problem, It grinds a bit when putting the shifter into 2nd, only when downshifting though. Reverse also grinds a bit like yours.
It also has the same difficulty putting it in gear sometimes, especially reverse. I find that if I take the clutch out when in neutral and then put it in and try shifting again it goes in smoother. I'm talking about at a dead standstill, I go to put it in reverse and something stops it unless I put put both hands on the shifter and yank it into gear, but putting the clutch in and out fixes it.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 05:03 PM   #5
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is it cold out? when its cold the boot tends to be stiff when its cold, and there is actually there is another boot you do not see underneath the one you do see. with the 2 boots geting stiff its makes it hard to shift and causes you to grind gears.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 05:06 PM   #6
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FYI reverse is an unsynchronized straight cut gear, so obviously its going to grind and be harder to shift into.

OP, its a 14 year old transmission with over 200k miles! What do you except? Synchros wear out, either put up with it or do a rebuild.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 05:07 PM   #7
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original clutch? could be wore ,slave cyl.at end of stroke
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is it cold out? when its cold the boot tends to be stiff when its cold, and there is actually there is another boot you do not see underneath the one you do see. with the 2 boots geting stiff its makes it hard to shift and causes you to grind gears.
Check this out first. I was having problems when it was cold. I took the accordian shift boot off and made a new one out of a longsleeve shirt. It helped alot.
Try some good oil in there, too.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 05:17 PM   #9
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when is the last time you changed the fluid? I had this problem on my ax-15 when I first bought my jeep. I changed the fluid to Redline MTL and it cured the hard shift problem.

As for reverse, try dropping it in 4th first, then reverse. Shouldn't be any grinds.
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Unread 03-10-2011, 06:45 PM   #10
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Yeah its the original clutch. I'm gonna change the fluid and get it looked at. Just looking for some ideas as to what it could be. Thanks for all the help
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