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post #1 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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Handling in the wet

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post #2 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 01:46 PM
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is for me, i slid out a cuple weeks ago, and today i didnt spin out, but i cud feel the tires not getting alotta traction

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post #3 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 01:48 PM
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trac-lock?

Do you have the TL rear? That can be a real PITA on wet roads:)

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Yes it is for a few reasons... You have rear wheel drive (when 4wd isn't in use) and when there is no one in the back, there is very little weight in the back (most up front), so since you have some sweet a** torque on that puppy, you will fish tale around turns if you are taking turns as fast as you do when it is dry. Also remember that since it hasn't rained in a good bit, the roads will probably be slicker than normal... You just have to get used to it, then it will be fun!

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post #5 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 01:50 PM
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I've heard this a few times with AT's, mostly in the winter weather though, all I can say is just be catious on the ol' turns.

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post #6 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 02:39 PM
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"at a resonable speed"
Hate to point out the obvious, but if it was a reasonable speed you wouldn't have spun out. Gotta go slow. Light rear + lots of torque = easy to lose traction. Keep the rubber side down!
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post #7 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 02:42 PM
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Hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but if you fishtail you aren't going a "reaonable speed". Light weight + high torque = easy loss of traction. Keep the rubber side down.
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post #8 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 04:15 PM
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It could be the BFG AT's. I use to have them on my jeep and my brother had them on his. We both noticed that they weren't the best tires on wet roads. Of course my foot is kinda heavy so that might have something to do with it.

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post #9 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 06:34 PM
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Age has nothing to do with it. If the back end didn't follow the front end (spun, slid, broke lose) then you were going too fast for the conditions. Could be the tires, could be the road, could be the speed. My point was that everyone needs to be careful in the wet or snow. There are many accident reports filed that start with "I wasn't going too fast but..."
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post #10 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 07:01 PM
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happens to me all the time. As everyone mentioned, its all about weight and rear wheel drive(when you're not in 4wd).

But its also about the short wheel base. You must drive in anticipation of the back end "going out" from time to time. Prepare for it, slow down.

My Wrangler has always slid out the back end on wet roads, even "hops" on dry bumpy roads if your speed is too much or you oversteer.

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post #11 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 08:18 PM
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Sorry Mike, didn't mean to make it sound like I was giving you a driving lesson.

You asked if this is normal behavior for a jeep to "break lose". My answer is "yes".

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post #12 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mike17112
I ask a simple question and I get lectures on how to drive. I won't bother in the future.
Wasn't always that way 'round here... but seems to be happening more and more.



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post #13 of 15 Old 10-10-2002, 09:38 PM
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But its also about the short wheel base.
We have a winner!! SWB vehicles are not inherently good handling. Coupled with a light vehicle with a fairly powerful engine wet weather traction is pretty poor.

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I would have to concur w/ the SWB being the culprate here - not any sort of bad driving... I have been used to driving Toyota 4x4's before my YJ and I have to say what I used to take at a "slower paced" corner in the truck cause my Jeep to turn sideways. I have learned sinve then but it took a few corners to sink in. Not everyone was born driving a Jeep.

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post #15 of 15 Old 10-11-2002, 09:28 AM
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Mike17112, I wasn't trying to be rude or give you driving lessons. You asked if it was normal for the backend to breaklose and my answer was "yes' if you are driving too fast. That wasn't meant as a smart remark or any indication of your driving. Everything people have said here including those "helpful answers" that assured you that they have the same problem (they are also going too fast) are simply the factors that make "too fast" occur at a really low speed. I also have the felt the backend get loose on wet pavement and spun around playing in snow in a parking lot. Why, I was going to fast for the conditions . Haven't yet seen a Jeep slide out or get loose while parked. (although I did see a camaro slid across an ice covered parking lot once with no driver inside, that was weird). Don't get frustrated if all the answers here are not ones you like. Happens all the. Take everything with a grain of salt and use it how you will. Again, Sorry.

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