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post #31 of 67 Old 07-22-2010, 09:53 PM
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ok from what i read it looks like everyone is pro savvy, i dont mean to open this can but i have an 05 X auto stock, what would i need for a TT? thanks
If you order everything with the Savvy system, that is Savvy name, you would need adjustable rear upper control arms, and SYE and CV drive shaft. I think that's it. Someone else can chime in if I forgot something.


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If you order everything with the Savvy system, that is Savvy name, you would need adjustable rear upper control arms, and SYE and CV drive shaft. I think that's it. Someone else can chime in if I forgot something.
does it need lower shock extensions (or flip your shocks if you are able)?
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If you order everything with the Savvy system, that is Savvy name, you would need adjustable rear upper control arms, and SYE and CV drive shaft. I think that's it. Someone else can chime in if I forgot something.
im looking at the site and it has an option for the 1.25" BL, and the Transfer Case Shifter, since mine is stock looks like i need those as well?

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does it need lower shock extensions (or flip your shocks if you are able)?
Don't think so. Never heard that it has. I'm going off of what has been said in the threads.

Don't take my word as final. Blaine is the one to ask for an ultimatum. But I think something like shock extensions is based on a per Jeep basis.

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im looking at the site and it has an option for the 1.25" BL, and the Transfer Case Shifter, since mine is stock looks like i need those as well?

thanks for the speedy reply!!
You will need the BL, but the shifter is optional. The Novak shifter is just the top of the line shifter you can get. As Blaine said, there are plenty of home brew solutions that will work just fine.

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If you order everything with the Savvy system, that is Savvy name, you would need adjustable rear upper control arms, and SYE and CV drive shaft. I think that's it. Someone else can chime in if I forgot something.
Sorry, Dale, not trying to bust your chops, even though I might be coming off that way. But I keep on thinking of my TT upgrade. How about angled rear trackbar bracket for rotating the pinion? And of course a Savvy gas tank skid to get the clearance for the trackbar. Not sure if that is in the kit?
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Excellent!! thanks DaleII looks like i have a new project coming up.
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Sorry, Dale, not trying to bust your chops, even though I might be coming off that way. But I keep on thinking of my TT upgrade. How about angled rear trackbar bracket for rotating the pinion? And of course a Savvy gas tank skid to get the clearance for the trackbar. Not sure if that is in the kit?
I couldn't tell you, but you need to talk to Blaine. Hop over into the Savvy under Armor thread and post up a question. Blaine has creative solutions for everything. He has a fix the the trackbar limiting flex.

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Excellent!! thanks DaleII looks like i have a new project coming up.
You being in LA you could probably even pick up the Savvy'ness at their shop. They're located in Tustin.

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I am just as Savvy as the next guy but all these people blowing Savvy ALL THE TIME is getting really old. People get talked down to just because they recommend something other than Savvy. When it all boils down to it, a TT is designed to tuck the driveline higher and protect it. There are numerous different skids, besides Savvy, that do this very well. If you want to save some weight and you are on a budget then ,IMHO, go with UCF. If you want to save weight and have a little cash to blow then go with Savvy. If you are on a tight budget and find a great deal on all of the used steel skids that are flooding the market because of the new aluminum craze, then save some cash and buy it. At the end of the day the destination is the same no matter how you get there.

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I am just as Savvy as the next guy but all these people blowing Savvy ALL THE TIME is getting really old. People get talked down to just because they recommend something other than Savvy. When it all boils down to it, a TT is designed to tuck the driveline higher and protect it. There are numerous different skids, besides Savvy, that do this very well. If you want to save some weight and you are on a budget then ,IMHO, go with UCF. If you want to save weight and have a little cash to blow then go with Savvy. If you are on a tight budget and find a great deal on all of the used steel skids that are flooding the market because of the new aluminum craze, then save some cash and buy it. At the end of the day the destination is the same no matter how you get there.


youb forget, there is a difference between "bolt on" and bolt up. Just because a UFC skid will bolt up doesnt mean your done, you still need to figure out the exhaust and the transmission pan if you have a 42rle, maybe the transmission mount.


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Generally more pieces do not make a better design, but in this case having the cross member support feature sounds nice, I could have used something like that on mine once or twice by now.
I'm in 100 percent agreement that more pieces do not make a better design.

Why do you think I came up with the only 1 piece engine and belly skid that starts in front of the engine oil pan and doesn't stop until it gets behind the transfer case?

I've done separate skids many many different ways and could never convince myself that bolting the two together under the transmission pan was the better way to do something. More cost effective and easier, but never as good as I thought I could do it.

You can take the wings off and throw them away and still protect everything that needs protecting. Might not slide as smoothly, but you'll get home.

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I am just as Savvy as the next guy but all these people blowing Savvy ALL THE TIME is getting really old. People get talked down to just because they recommend something other than Savvy. When it all boils down to it, a TT is designed to tuck the driveline higher and protect it. There are numerous different skids, besides Savvy, that do this very well. If you want to save some weight and you are on a budget then ,IMHO, go with UCF. If you want to save weight and have a little cash to blow then go with Savvy. If you are on a tight budget and find a great deal on all of the used steel skids that are flooding the market because of the new aluminum craze, then save some cash and buy it. At the end of the day the destination is the same no matter how you get there.
There are various other skids that a vary good in there design. I consider UCF and the system to be the next best things other then Savvy, but Savvy is the most complete system you can buy.

You might be tired of all the Savvy talk, but that doesn't change the fact of how innovative the products are. They are some of the best products built for what they are designed for. The products are built for certain aspects of off roading. The TT and GTS are just things that are universal. But the Under Armor system is most definitely among the higher end components.

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I'm in 100 percent agreement that more pieces do not make a better design.

Why do you think I came up with the only 1 piece engine and belly skid that starts in front of the engine oil pan and doesn't stop until it gets behind the transfer case?

I've done separate skids many many different ways and could never convince myself that bolting the two together under the transmission pan was the better way to do something. More cost effective and easier, but never as good as I thought I could do it.

You can take the wings off and throw them away and still protect everything that needs protecting. Might not slide as smoothly, but you'll get home.
I'm kinda embarrassed, I guess I should take a look at your design. Your skid being one piece definitely sounds sweet. I guess I just have what I have and had to comment.
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I'm kinda embarrassed, I guess I should take a look at your design. Your skid being one piece definitely sounds sweet. I guess I just have what I have and had to comment.
There is a method to my design madness. My goal is to take the same belly/engine skid and raise and lower by altering the crossmember and front brace as the various models and transmission options dictate.

I started with the hardest and lowest version first being the 03 up with the auto and after that, it's all up from there.

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