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Unread 07-29-2010, 11:41 PM   #106
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Am I the only one that is confused why savvy is listed as a tag? There is nothing savvy about this thread. They will not be making any products, and there is no mod of any of their products except for the UA which is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
You should know by now that any opportunity I get to build something from scratch or modify something else, I view it as a potential product. For all you know, you may be looking at our prototype suspension.

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Unread 07-29-2010, 11:46 PM   #107
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Am I the only one that is confused why savvy is listed as a tag? There is nothing savvy about this thread. They will not be making any products, and there is no mod of any of their products except for the UA which is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
This is clearly a build thread dedicated to, and initiated by Mr. Robert Yates, performed/executed by MrBlaine, with components from many manufacturers, of which Savyy may or may not be one.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 02:14 AM   #108
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Am I the only one that is confused why savvy is listed as a tag? There is nothing savvy about this thread. They will not be making any products, and there is no mod of any of their products except for the UA which is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
You're probably the only one who cares.


Ok so I understand how the radius rod mounts, but I don't understand why. In my under-educated mind it seems as if it would rip of CA mounts easier than a prom queen's dress. Also, was rear steer an issue? I tried to picture this in my mind and it seems like it would push and pull the axle forwards and back? I do believe I'm in over my head though.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 06:28 AM   #109
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I read part of your long arm low lift thread and you need to study up some more.

Those telling you that longer arms are required for a good ride, handling and performance on the trail are full of it.
Understatement of the year...I wasn't be facetious when I said I almost understood some of it. The problem I'm having is that I'm getting conflicting opinions from pretty much every source out there, but I'm not hearing the reasons or facts behind the opinions. Thus, I'm doing a lot of reading on my own time and trying to come up with answers. When I have relevant, intelligent questions to ask, I'll be doing so.

Thank you for looking over my thread. If you have any suggestions, I trust I will hear from you. For now, I'm going to shut the hell up and try to figure out this radius rod system you're working on.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:45 AM   #110
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Look at the upper arm and the bracket on the end...the single joint goes to the frame.
The two joints go onto the axle, and the single joint connects to the frame? Seems like it's upside down for that..

Is this another version of said radius rod?



This is what I first thought of when the subject arose. That to me seems like a plausible suspension setup. But the other one I guess is the same thing, almost.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:55 AM   #111
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Sundowner if their's anything I've seen looking at some of the work done on the Savvy jeeps and driving around in them.. Ride is more effected by spring and shocks as long as geometry isn't significantly altered. My lift is 2 months old I'm already ordering new shocks from Gerald today

Ignore list or not I'm curious on this because eventually I want to move away from a factory designed suspension. I'm trying to figure out if triangulated 4 link or triangulated 3 link or another option will be the right stuff. Sometimes thinking through the physics isn't enough you have to learn from others


Dale II thank you for the visual that's what I was looking at but something still seems missing..
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:59 AM   #112
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Is this another version of said radius rod?
That's a radius arm set-up.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:18 AM   #113
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This!



Looks good for something that doesn't have much suspension travel. But not on a long travel Jeep.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:25 AM   #114
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Looks good for something that doesn't have much suspension travel. But not on a long travel Jeep.
Same thing I'm trying to understand other than it's strong enough to handle (I imagine I haven't real world experience but stock F350 is a similar setup) high speed impacts and heavy abuse.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:44 AM   #115
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i too am confused about the radius arm vs radius rod suspension theory

the only thing i can possibly guess is that having the convergence point further back (ie TBT in picture as opposed to a RE front) it would allow more torsional movement (flex) before the joints bind up?

Then again that is just my WAG
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:52 AM   #116
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I've got my head wrapped around how it works, I think. Not sure about why it would be better or worse than a radius arm, though...seems like it's putting a lot of load on one area, though.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 11:29 AM   #117
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I think (I could be wrong) the geometry not only has to do with the ability to flex but also the direction the force is applied to the arms and the direction the force is transferred to the from from the arm. So some certain setups would tend to squat more than others under acceleration or torque left to right more etc. Maybe a smarter person can pop in on this.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 12:38 PM   #118
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Alright Blaine, you've had 4 days. Is it done yet?

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Unread 07-30-2010, 02:47 PM   #119
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Definitely looking forward to seeing some actual pics of a mid-arm set-up!
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Unread 07-30-2010, 02:49 PM   #120
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