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Unread 11-14-2013, 07:54 AM   #646
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1480 u-joints.

Mine has all that other crap. I still cringe when I put my tire against a vertical and press the throttle...
Trust me, the cringing doesn't stop with 1480's. I have them and still cringe every time I put a front tire on a vertical and force it to climb.

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Unread 11-14-2013, 10:52 AM   #647
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What do you do when your rear shocks need to be fixed? Get a magic tape measure and I just happen to own one.



Just in case you suck at dimensional math.



Installed in the rear application on Robert's rig they show just a smidge or two more than 6" of up-travel at ride height.

It was done that way to save the modification of the previously installed Poly outboard shock kit. This made it a direct bolt in.
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http://www.offroadshocks.com/product...FUlyQgod0T0Asg

Note the fully extended dimension.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 11:02 AM   #648
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This may help-

http://www.offroadshocks.com/product...FUlyQgod0T0Asg

Note the fully extended dimension.
I get it now. Wayne shortened the can (and obviously the innards) somehow and then you didn't have to move shock mounts. Little slow on my part as to what I was seeing. Should have been more on the ball as those are the exact shocks I have in the rear.
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Unread 11-14-2013, 11:13 AM   #649
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What do you do when your rear shocks need to be fixed? Get a magic tape measure and I just happen to own one.



Just in case you suck at dimensional math.



Installed in the rear application on Robert's rig they show just a smidge or two more than 6" of up-travel at ride height.

It was done that way to save the modification of the previously installed Poly outboard shock kit. This made it a direct bolt in.
Blaine. Will these work on my rig in the rear?
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Unread 11-14-2013, 12:03 PM   #650
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I get it now. Wayne shortened the can (and obviously the innards) somehow and then you didn't have to move shock mounts. Little slow on my part as to what I was seeing. Should have been more on the ball as those are the exact shocks I have in the rear.
Yep, the 12" travel shocks have an internal spacer that Wayne removes for me to get 13" of travel out of the 12's. If you shorten the body by an inch, shorten the shaft by an inch and then delete the spacer you wind up with a 12" travel shock that is shorter overall.

Took me a few minutes of head scratching to get that all straight in my mind, but once done, it seems obvious and unless you are really paying attention, you can't tell what was done.
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Unread 11-25-2013, 01:14 AM   #651
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Glad you like the way it turned out, Robert.

BTW: I have something for you. PM or text me your address & I'll get it to you.
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Unread 11-25-2013, 08:09 AM   #652
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Thank Joe.... Please give it to Blaine as we talked on the phone. Thanx
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Unread 01-13-2014, 12:40 PM   #653
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The Jeep has been considered "done" for several months now but I don't get out much these days for a variety of reasons. I did however finally get a chance recently and headed out to JV and ran some go fast stuff around Fissure Mountain and over to Giant Rock.

Lets just say that I don't think my Jeep has been this dialed in since it was delivered stock from the factory. I was able to hold a GPS verified 57MPH on the Boone Road access to the dry lake bed and achieved similar results once out on the trail. The Wayne/Blaine tune on the Fox Shocks is incredible off road, the mid arm works to perfection and is completely stable at speed with the 4" of lift and the PSC steering delivers no bump steer and a ton of power with good on center feel.

So to recap the build over a period of several years we have the following:

R&R Alumiflex long arm suspension with a 3link panhard bar 26" arm front, 4 link 26" arm rear, front shock eye conversion, Poly Perf rear shock outboard kit, 4" Currie springs.

R&R HP30 with non-bent sleeved and trussed HP30, Currie/Savvy steering with PSC extreme duty pump, box, cooler and ram. Tie rod flip, swaybar bracket relocation and knuckle reinforcement.

Install Genrite raised body mount brackets to remove body lift.

Install Savvy tub armor, front bumper, front bumper corner reinforcements.

Install new transmission crossmember and 3/8" AL flat belly skid. Re-purpose existing AL engine skid to match.

Install Exogate tire carrier.

This is all a very generic overview of the work done by Blaine and it doesn't even go into all of the small detail work that defines a completed build. I like that this Jeep still looks like a stock Jeep.... one would have to look very close or know what they are looking at in order to see all of the detail work that defines improved clearances and tweeks necessary to improve off-road performance.

I pitched in a new set of 35" MTR Kevlars and went and got myself what I consider one of the nicest tops on the market.... a Bestop Twill Replace-A-Top which I installed over factory hardware.

Much to my wife's dismay, I still have 2 modifications left.... a rear Antirock and new front seats but at this point, the Jeep rides and drives very well. A couple of pix as to what its looking like these days as well as a picture of my supposed POS stock flex header which was supposed to be blown up by now according to my pal Knucklehead
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Unread 01-13-2014, 01:02 PM   #654
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Wow, that is one good looking, well equipped rig. Shiny too.
Nice POS flex header. Matter of fact, that's one helluva driveway you have...I think i'm jealous.
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Unread 01-13-2014, 01:32 PM   #655
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Unread 01-13-2014, 02:12 PM   #656
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Wow, that is one good looking, well equipped rig. Shiny too.
Nice POS flex header. Matter of fact, that's one helluva driveway you have...I think i'm jealous.
LOL... stamped concrete is nice... when its not all cracked to he!! and back. Damn tree roots
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Unread 01-13-2014, 02:33 PM   #657
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Really clean work. Came out really nice
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Unread 01-13-2014, 02:38 PM   #658
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Thanx... Blaine is a master for sure.
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Unread 01-13-2014, 05:45 PM   #659
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Robert,

Very nice rig. I glanced through the thread but couldn't find what you did in the rear. Is it triangulated? If not, how's the TB mounted at the frame?

Thanks!!
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Unread 01-13-2014, 06:19 PM   #660
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Robert,

Very nice rig. I glanced through the thread but couldn't find what you did in the rear. Is it triangulated? If not, how's the TB mounted at the frame?

Thanks!!
Thanx. Rear 44 is trussed and 4 linked...no panhard bar. Blaine repurposed the 7075 AL 2" arms by cutting them down to achieve a 26" arm and used the large shank forged JJ's at each end on new brackets. The uppers are on hiems for room at uptravel and they still kiss the bottom of the tub.
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