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post #226 of 731 Old 08-04-2010, 11:58 PM
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arent they just redrilled up higher? Looks like good start though
Yes, JUST redrilled up higher. Try it sometime and get back to me without pulling the axles.

But, they are at the exact bolt height I would have made custom tabs for and all I have to do to finish these off is put a small plate across the bottom to tie the sides of the stock brackets back into the tube. The weld washers are 3/16's and fully welded for both ends of the bolt.


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Yes, JUST redrilled up higher. Try it sometime and get back to me without pulling the axles.

But, they are at the exact bolt height I would have made custom tabs for and all I have to do to finish these off is put a small plate across the bottom to tie the sides of the stock brackets back into the tube. The weld washers are 3/16's and fully welded for both ends of the bolt.
90 deg drill?

Im a machinist, so id go about it the hard way and pull the axles.

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arent they just redrilled up higher? Looks like good start though

Blaine pretty much said it all but comments like that crack me up. I was there while he and Chris were getting both sides done and while I have a pretty well stocked garage myself, I would by no means think this was a piece of cake.
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Robert, I like to poke at Blaine, just as he likes to poke at me.


I had enough fun mounting the rear trackbar relocator from currie to know that id have to take the axles out and probably the whole rearend out to redrill the control arm mounts. Im a big guy, not a contortionist, but at least my jeep is tall enough i can get on the creeper and roll under the jeep with room to work now.

What is the vertical seperation going to be on the axle now that the control arm mounts are moved?

on an unrelated note, I cant believe what currie wants for chromoly barrels! WOW
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What is the vertical seperation going to be on the axle now that the control arm mounts are moved?
That is actually the issue at hand... with the TXT truss it was around 11" at the axle...not good and that in concert with almost very little separation at the crossmember pretty much accounts for the reason why the long arm wanted to unload on climbs. When I was there yesterday one of the first things I said to Blaine was that the truss was too tall so moving the arms up on the existing mounts 1.25" has already helped. We also gained around 2" of clearance as we cleaned up the bottom of the existing mounts.

As for where we are going... we are shooting for around 8" so the next chore is trying to figure out where we can get the rear upper joints mounted on the truss. We have already confirmed that we can use the 7/8ths shank rod ends with the existing AL uppers so that is one less thing to have to fabricate which = less $$$.
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That is actually the issue at hand...
This makes so much more sense after figuring out the anti-squat problems and why they're showing up.

If it's worth doing, then it's worth overdoing.

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I'm interested in Redrilling the stock brackets. It sounds like on the axle side that's what you've done. I've seen it before in an aev installation manual. I know this is far from stock but any speculation on what effect this would have on stockish length adjustable arms and stock mounts?

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I'm interested in Redrilling the stock brackets. It sounds like on the axle side that's what you've done. I've seen it before in an aev installation manual. I know this is far from stock but any speculation on what effect this would have on stockish length adjustable arms and stock mounts?
If you move the lowers, you need to move the uppers to maintain separation. That is unless you're trying to change the handling characteristics.

I too like the way that was done. It's nice to know that's an option when trying to improve clearance.
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Long arms rule!!!!

LONG ARMS RULE!!!! except for hanging up on the occasional rock with the rear arms----LOL
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LONG ARMS RULE!!!! except for hanging up on the occasional rock with the rear arms----LOL
maybe for you but im sure theres more than 500 short arms out there that will make you drool compared too most long arms

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was there ever a definition of a Long Arm?

Wondering if it would go something like this, for a TJ

Short arm, Arms within 2" of stock, arms mounted in stock locations
Mid Arms, Arms over 2" of stock, arms mounted to the frame
Long Arms, Arms well over stock length mounted to the belly pan

It is fun to watch everyone get up in arms over this

How about this for a definition

Short arm, Arms within 2" of stock, arms mounted in stock locations
Mid Arms, Arms over 2" of stock, mounted to some place other than the stock location
Long Arms, bought in a kit, bolted on somewhere

Why do I post here?
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maybe for you but im sure theres more than 500 short arms out there that will make you drool compared too most long arms
Why does your profile say your suspension sucks and your future mod is long arms? I don't care I just crack up when the SA vs. LA debate starts. My Jeep came with long arms and that's why I have them.
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Why does your profile say your suspension sucks and your future mod is long arms? I don't care I just crack up when the SA vs. LA debate starts. My Jeep came with long arms and that's why I have them.
well since you mentioned it,i havent looked at the info in a long time lol..guess i should fix it since everything changes,and changed again as of today

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I'm interested in Redrilling the stock brackets. It sounds like on the axle side that's what you've done. I've seen it before in an aev installation manual. I know this is far from stock but any speculation on what effect this would have on stockish length adjustable arms and stock mounts?
If you have a way to show me where those specs from AEV are and how they did it, I would appreciate it. I've never heard of or seen the stock axle side mounts re-drilled before or the weld washers done they way we did it.

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was there ever a definition of a Long Arm?

Wondering if it would go something like this, for a TJ

Short arm, Arms within 2" of stock, arms mounted in stock locations
Mid Arms, Arms over 2" of stock, arms mounted to the frame
Long Arms, Arms well over stock length mounted to the belly pan

It is fun to watch everyone get up in arms over this

How about this for a definition

Short arm, Arms within 2" of stock, arms mounted in stock locations
Mid Arms, Arms over 2" of stock, mounted to some place other than the stock location
Long Arms, bought in a kit, bolted on somewhere
Bruce, you need to do us both a huge favor and give me and any thread I'm involved in a very wide berth. Due to your exhibition of middle school chest thumping and backdoor tactics to get me banned elsewhere, I'm fairly astounded that you even have the audacity to post in one of my threads.

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