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post #196 of 731 Old 08-03-2010, 10:39 AM
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Is the notch ahead of the motor mount? Will it compromise the strength of the frame by basically putting a pivot point for the frame to buckle?

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If I recall those are 11" travel shocks? Could be 12". So, with 5.5" of uptravel he should realize 5.5 to 6.5" of down. That is perfect! Getting to the trail is tough when you only have a few inches of uptravel. A common problem with COG rigs. 10 miles back to camp in the whoops makes for a long ride back.

Pretty close Gerald....they are 11.5" stroke Edelbrocks.
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Where did that bracket on the axle for the track bar come from? Is that part of the old suspension system or did you make it?
That bracket was part of the crossover steering kit I bought from Troy back in 2004.
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The poly bushing delete on the trackbar looks nice. Troys poly bushing cost me an axle bracket.
That is one of the things that started the rebuild... I blew up the original trackbar bushing and luckily, I caught it before it took out that bracket. I substituted it with a Currie Johnny Joint and subsequently blew up both the upper arm axle brackets a couple of times. Scrounging parts was a PITA since Troys junk uses weird bracket and joint configuations. The stuff I was able to find had dimensional differences as well and I was not able to square the suspension to the frame at the end. Something had to go.
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Is the notch ahead of the motor mount? Will it compromise the strength of the frame by basically putting a pivot point for the frame to buckle?
Yes it's in front of the motor mount. Yes it compromises the strength of the frame. The better question is does it matter? And the answer to that is not in my experience. I've notched many many frames for similar clearance issues and not one of them has ever had a problem as a result of doing do.

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Yes it's in front of the motor mount. Yes it compromises the strength of the frame. The better question is does it matter? And the answer to that is not in my experience. I've notched many many frames for similar clearance issues and not one of them has ever had a problem as a result of doing do.
Thats the answer I was looking for. Since its in front of the motor mount, that makes more sense; not as much weight up there to push down on the frame...

Progress is looking good, keep it up.
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If notching the frame makes one nervous, one can always weld a doubler around the notch to reinforce the frame.
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If notching the frame makes one nervous, one can always weld a doubler around the notch to reinforce the frame.
You can also weld a chunk over the top of the notch that equals what's been removed and taper the ends down at a 45 angle to meet the top of the frame.

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You can also weld a chunk over the top of the notch that equals what's been removed and taper the ends down at a 45 angle to meet the top of the frame.

You are absolutely right on that one also, I thought of it but just left it alone.

So did you have to knock the cobweds off the plasma cutter to get some of them curved cuts or was a high speed rotary file involved?
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You are absolutely right on that one also, I thought of it but just left it alone.

So did you have to knock the cobweds off the plasma cutter to get some of them curved cuts or was a high speed rotary file involved?
Hole saw and a 4 1/2" grinder with a cut-off disc and a flap disc.

In fact, every single tab and mount you see that we made was made the same way, cut 'em out with a cut-off disc on the grinder and then hand finish sand them.

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I figured several cut-off disk were used, I just didn't think of the hole saw....anything but that **** plasma huh?

Looks good and functional.
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I figured several cut-off disk were used, I just didn't think of the hole saw....anything but that **** plasma huh?

Looks good and functional.
You bring your plasma or you're welcome to use either of the two sitting on the floor and we'll see who cuts faster and gets done sooner and whose work is cleaner.

I only keep them around because there's always that one little tiny thing I can't get to with the sawsall, die grinder, or cut off disc and that's the only thing that keeps them in the garage. They are most assuredly not my go to tool.

And no on the several discs. Less than 1/8" off of one.

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Hole saw and a 4 1/2" grinder with a cut-off disc and a flap disc.

In fact, every single tab and mount you see that we made was made the same way, cut 'em out with a cut-off disc on the grinder and then hand finish sand them.
Guess I need to practice more
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You bring your plasma or you're welcome to use either of the two sitting on the floor and we'll see who cuts faster and gets done sooner and whose work is cleaner.

I only keep them around because there's always that one little tiny thing I can't get to with the sawsall, die grinder, or cut off disc and that's the only thing that keeps them in the garage. They are most assuredly not my go to tool.

And no on the several discs. Less than 1/8" off of one.
Two!? I wish I had one.. But I am managing with my cut of wheels.. But for those long cuts a plasma would be nice. I'm not that great with a torch yet either..

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You bring your plasma or you're welcome to use either of the two sitting on the floor and we'll see who cuts faster and gets done sooner and whose work is cleaner.

I only keep them around because there's always that one little tiny thing I can't get to with the sawsall, die grinder, or cut off disc and that's the only thing that keeps them in the garage. They are most assuredly not my go to tool.

And no on the several discs. Less than 1/8" off of one.
I'm just messin with ya, I know plasma is not your cutting tool of choice.

1/8" with that much cutting, what brand disk are ya using?
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