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post #1 of 23 Old 11-21-2002, 06:38 PM Thread Starter
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Good Header For my 98 TJ

Can anyone recommend a good header for my 1998 TJ. I need something that won't involve cutting and welding, something that will bolt directly to my stock intermediate pipe. Is it a tough job? Will they sound good (esp w/ my dynomax cat-back system)? And finally, is the power-gain good? Thanks!!!


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post #2 of 23 Old 11-21-2002, 07:10 PM
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I installed a borla header, and I love it. Sounds better and performs better. I did the installation and it was a little bit of work. If you are patient and take your time it can be done. Its about a 6-7 hour job. The hardest part is removing everything to get to the manifold (which is probably cracked) then putting it all back together. But it definately can be done, just take your time, you don't want to screw this one up.

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post #3 of 23 Old 11-21-2002, 07:12 PM
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borla all the way

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post #4 of 23 Old 11-22-2002, 09:04 AM
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Banks!..Better overall quality than the Borla header..(i.e thicker flange,better fit etc) and the price is about the same.
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post #5 of 23 Old 11-22-2002, 07:38 PM
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I went with pace setter, cause it was the only I could find at the time for a 4 banger.

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post #6 of 23 Old 11-22-2002, 10:14 PM
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I went with pacesetter too. they tuck up out of the way in the front but I did have to modify the pipes to clear the control arms when you flex.

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post #7 of 23 Old 11-23-2002, 11:09 AM
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I went with the Borla, its a great header. Its made of stainless steel and fit like a glove. It was a little more money but I think well worth it!
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post #8 of 23 Old 11-26-2002, 06:48 AM
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i bought a pacesetter and don't like it. you have to use these cheap clamps to hold three pieces of pipe together and it doesn't really fit well. I would go with some other design.
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post #9 of 23 Old 12-27-2008, 03:23 PM
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So whats the best one for the $$
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post #10 of 23 Old 12-27-2008, 04:59 PM
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I also believe if you go with Borla or Banks you get a lifetime warranty which is good because odds are you will replace it again WHEN it cracks. And the job is not to bad but time consuming.
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post #11 of 23 Old 12-27-2008, 05:13 PM
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When you look at an aftermarket header or even a stock manifold its not IF it cracks, its WHEN it cracks. You have to ask yourself, "is a warrantee worth it?" Do you wanna replace it ever year or two? If I were to replace mine right now, I would buy one with flex tubing at each end. Now by no means is this a "header," its simply a tube manifold. Its your best bet for longevity and its cheaper. Headers on 4.0's normally dont do much for power or milage.
This is the flex manifold I am speaking of.

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When you look at an aftermarket header or even a stock manifold its not IF it cracks, its WHEN it cracks. You have to ask yourself, "is a warrantee worth it?" Do you wanna replace it ever year or two? If I were to replace mine right now, I would buy one with flex tubing at each end. Now by no means is this a "header," its simply a tube manifold. Its your best bet for longevity and its cheaper. Headers on 4.0's normally dont do much for power or milage.
This is the flex manifold I am speaking of.
yeah that doesn't work....
The "flex tubes" are a gimmic. I bought one from a company that used to advertise on this board. I think they're called mid-Atlantic (www.carpartstoyourdoor.com) I had the header on for about a year and a half and it cracked. It cracked where cylinder #5 joins in.

They were good about it and honored the lifetime warranty and sent me a new one, provided i shipped back the broken one. All in all, i was out just for the shipping costs and my own labour to replace it.

But, they DO break. Hopefully my new one lasts longer then 1.5 years.
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yeah that doesn't work....
The "flex tubes" are a gimmic. I bought one from a company that used to advertise on this board. I think they're called mid-Atlantic (www.carpartstoyourdoor.com) I had the header on for about a year and a half and it cracked. It cracked where cylinder #5 joins in.

They were good about it and honored the lifetime warranty and sent me a new one, provided i shipped back the broken one. All in all, i was out just for the shipping costs and my own labour to replace it.

But, they DO break. Hopefully my new one lasts longer then 1.5 years.
Maybe you got a faulty one. Ive heard nothing but good things about these. It doesnt matter which header you get, Banks, Borla, Pasesetter, Doug Thorley, Edelbrock, etc, the simple fact is, it will crack.
It could also be the company you got it from, I know there are a few out there, just not sure which one is suppose to be the best one.

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Maybe you got a faulty one. Ive heard nothing but good things about these. It doesnt matter which header you get, Banks, Borla, Pasesetter, Doug Thorley, Edelbrock, etc, the simple fact is, it will crack.
It could also be the company you got it from, I know there are a few out there, just not sure which one is suppose to be the best one.
If that's true and my last one was just a friday manifold, then hopefully that means my new one will last a while ... that would make me a happy man
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post #15 of 23 Old 12-27-2008, 07:00 PM
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I have thrown headers on all of my cars so far with the exception of my TJ because I just got it. I have NEVER had headers crack. Race modified 5.0, 03 Cobra, even my 66 Mustang that I have had for 7 years. The only way I can see headers cracking is if you repeatedly go swimming with your Jeep

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you know you drive a tj when you can't decide whats louder: the soft top, the tires or the straight pipes
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