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Unread 01-09-2010, 03:03 PM   #1
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front outer axle seals and axle shaft runout...

here's a little problem I have....

I just can't figure out why the outer seals keep going bad,
with brand new shafts.

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I'm not gonna reveal the brand.... I hope this will help get the problem fixed.

anyone else have a similiar situation? or maybe you do and just don't know it.

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Unread 01-09-2010, 03:14 PM   #2
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is that as you steer?

post up some high res of the inside of your tube seals.
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Unread 01-09-2010, 03:17 PM   #3
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is that as you steer?

post up some high res of the inside of your tube seals.
lol, they are wasted......
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Unread 01-09-2010, 04:41 PM   #5
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let me guess. The wear is fore - aft in a horizontal plane.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:10 PM   #6
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holy crap. whats the scale on the dial indicator? 1/1000? i cant see squat in that video but it looks like .03" runout?
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holy crap. whats the scale on the dial indicator? 1/1000? i cant see squat in that video but it looks like .03" runout?
lol, it goes a full turn, past "0" to 50!
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let me guess. The wear is fore - aft in a horizontal plane.
kinda like a bent axle that just got the wrapper taken off of it, the tires never even got put on the ground with that pair in it...
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Wow, unbelievable. I wouldn't mind knowing the brand so a PM would be appreciated. I just don't want to make the mistake of purchasing axles from them.
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I don't feel they are a mistake, just need some more or different attention as to how they are straightened after the heat treat....
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I've got word from the Brand, they are showing the manufacture the vid of the .150" runnout and are seeking a solution. I think it's a problem that not many, if any, have noticed after installation... it can cause a vibration and prolly throw u-joints prematurely besides dammaging outer axle seals.

it has been said, by the Brand, that .045" runnout is ok.... the stock ones have .003", hmmm...
but the seals won't last long, IMO if theres that much runnout I'd consider the shaft bent. which is how I found the problem in the first place, I though I bent them, untill the new replacements came which were worse.
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How does posting this, without revealing the brand, help protect any of the forum members who come here looking for good solid advice on what's worth their money and what products/brands to avoid?
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How does posting this, without revealing the brand, help protect any of the forum members who come here looking for good solid advice on what's worth their money and what products/brands to avoid?
x2...what brand am I making sure not to buy? it's got to be either USA Alloy or Superior
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x2...what brand am I making sure not to buy? it's got to be either USA Alloy or Superior
Well for starters, this is not an issue that's been prevalent in the past, nor will it be in the future. Something has changed at the manufacturing end and when the "brand" figures out what, the issue will be remedied to everyone's satisfaction.

To alienate yourself from a particular brand over what hasn't been an issue and won't be an issue is sorta silly if said brand is well known for resolving issues to the best of their ability and in the customer's best interests.

It's just unfortunate that it's happening this many times in a row. But, trust me, they are on top of it and are in fact scheduled to make an engineering stop tomorrow before a meeting with the manufacturer to determine the best solution.
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