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Unread 06-08-2013, 10:33 PM   #1
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Frame rot, need some opinions

So I decided to take my skid plate off because I saw a nutsert hanging down a little farther than it should and low and behold, I found some good frame rot. Its a 2001 and has spent its life in the northeast. It has 155,000 miles on it. So what are my options?

I've heard of Safe-T-Caps and that seems like the best bet but opinions would be great.

The rest of the frame is in great shape and there seems to be only minor surface rust around the various holes in the frame.

I don't have a welder. I am mechanically inclined and can tackle a good amount of projects with some good instructions.

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Unread 06-08-2013, 10:46 PM   #2
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You will want to hire a welder, a competent fabricator can build you a nice patch for the bottom of the rails. I would not tackle this as a first welding project. I can try to contact the welder I used to work with in Swansea, MA if you are interested, he has done a few of these exact repairs for me in the past.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 11:12 PM   #3
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Autorust is in Cranston. The make the safe t cap. Give them a call. I just did this project last week. Did a safe t cap on the passengers side, cleaned up the frame and painted. Cut all of the rot out and weld on a cap, make sure you get all of the bad metal.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 07:30 AM   #4
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I bought safe t caps for my sons CJ. He had some rot on the frame by the rear shackle mount. Worked like a champ.
When I originaly brought it to the garage, they told me it would be cheaper to buy the safe t cap, than have them figure out the angles.
Since it appears that your rot is all on straight, I would think it would be fairly easy to fix.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 07:42 AM   #5
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Before doing anything, get a fiber optic camera, fish it into the frame in various holes, and inspect. Take a small 4oz ball peen hammer and tap the frame everywhere, listening for the clean sound of intact metal or the muffled clunk of rust. If the hammer makes a hole, that spot is already gone. Now make YOUR decision on complete information about YOUR frame condition, not just a hopeful guess. Jeep frames rot from the inside out, and the appearance of the frame exterior is not informative about the true condition.

If YOU decide it is salvageable, fix it. DON'T ask anybody else's online opinion, because those are ALWAYS colored by their own opinions with their own Jeeps, which have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the real condition of YOUR Jeep, about which other people in an Internet Forum know nothing whatsoever.

Make YOUR decision and take responsibility for your choice. Don't ever take any input unless that person is present and evaluating the precise condition of YOUR Jeep.

In truth, the welded-on frame patches are a temporary, rather expensive fix that promotes more rust. They are strongly advocated by repair shops and welders who personally profit from such repairs.

If you decide to part out your Jeep, you might make more money than doing a quick patch-and-sell of the complete vehicle. If you sell the whole vehicle, don't lie about the condition. Treat the respective buyer as you would wish to be treated.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 09:46 AM   #6
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I've seen worse.
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Unread 06-10-2013, 11:44 PM   #7
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Well I got an estimate for repairs and I'm really debating whether or not to fix it. On one hand I want to fix it, but the jeep also has 157k miles on it, and who knows what will happen next. On the other hand, I could just sell it/ part it out and get back as much money as I can
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Unread 06-11-2013, 07:43 AM   #8
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If you do the Safe-T-Cap replacement section just be sure to go over their welds and make sure they're sound. Sometimes the welds they do are sub-par.

I used their rear frame sections and THEIR welds failed on 2 separate occasions in 2 different areas.
One of the UCA mounts literally fell off the frame due to bad welds/design.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:33 PM   #9
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You will want to hire a welder, a competent fabricator can build you a nice patch for the bottom of the rails. I would not tackle this as a first welding project. I can try to contact the welder I used to work with in Swansea, MA if you are interested, he has done a few of these exact repairs for me in the past.
Do you think you could try to contact the guy in Swansea? I'm trying to get a few different estimates before I bite the bullet. Thanks
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Unread 06-11-2013, 09:29 PM   #10
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I can I am unfortunately on the west coast and can't call until tomorrow. I'll let you know if I can track him down.
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Unread 07-03-2013, 06:04 PM   #11
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Just an update in case someone stumbles upon this, I ended up taking my jeep to Auto Rust Technicians in Cranston RI. I asked around at a bunch of shops in the area and they all said to go to Cranston. So I dropped it off and two days later I picked it up. It looks awesome. The welded in sections look great. The skid plate bolts right up with no issues. They also painted my entire frame. Yes, it was expensive but now I hope I don't have to worry about my frame for awhile. I highly recommend taking your jeep to Auto Rust Technicians if you have any frame rot, as they did an excellent job.
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Unread 07-04-2013, 12:07 AM   #12
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you. I wasn't able to get a hold of my former co worker. Glad it worked out. I know a few guys that used to work at auto rust. They do good work glad you had a good experience. Did they coat the inside of the frame at all? If not look into the Eastwood frame coating to further prolong your frame life.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 10:25 AM   #13
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Exact same frame rot and low and behold I'm in New Bedford go figure...
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Unread 12-31-2013, 08:03 PM   #14
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You'd be suprised at how bad the rust can get.
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Wow, that Yota pic is crazy!
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