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Unread 08-01-2010, 07:38 AM   #31
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Know anyone in youngstown, Ohio?? this one is listed for $400
Jeep Wrangler 4.0 Chassis: Fits 1997-02 Wrangler. Comes with axles with 3.07 gears, steering box, gas tank
http://www.daveysjeeps.com/images/Parts/chassis1.jpg
Thats a lot of saleable or extra parts for $400

Note daveys is closed till aug 11th according to the website.

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Unread 08-01-2010, 08:35 AM   #32
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Geez, changing a frame out seems like you are basically rebuilding your Jeep from scratch. I mean, where do you begin axles or where?
Not really, were it me, I'd pull the front clip, jack the body up and shove poles through from side to side to hold it up since I don't have an A frame. Push the old rolling chassis out from under it, swap the drivetrain into it and push it back under the body.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 09:34 AM   #33
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My TJ doesn't have any rust in it's frame YET and I want to keep it that way

So just skip the to rise and then the POR15. Does the inside of the frame need to be really dry for the POR15 and if so whats the best way to dry it, just leave it overnight??

Also I know POR15 is some really thick stuff, how did you manage "wand" it inside the frame? Are you meaning a sprayer wand or just a stick with a POR15 soaked towel on the end of it?

As far as making it thinner has anyone tried heating it up maybe in a tank of boiling water to thin it out for application ?

Also if there is some rust that I don't know about is the POR15 going to stop it or just trap it in there and let it keep eating away at my frame?

As far as the outside of the frame is rust much of an issue there and should I also POR15 it or just use some fluid film or such a couple times a year?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just not used to having to deal with a vehicle that is rust prone like the TJs seem to be.


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i've yet to do it . i got a wand from eastwood for the exact purpose of tough to reach areas . it's an expensive tool about 120.00 but it is 100% quality . it uses a compressor to shoot the product like a paint gun without the bottle the wand is on a flexible hose type deal . i'm sure it'll work fine . por is thinable . and it is best applied to a wet surface .
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Unread 08-01-2010, 09:56 AM   #34
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Not really, were it me, I'd pull the front clip, jack the body up and shove poles through from side to side to hold it up since I don't have an A frame. Push the old rolling chassis out from under it, swap the drivetrain into it and push it back under the body.
That my friends, is how it is done!

Just finished my frame swap a few weeks ago. I completely disassebled it and got all the way to welding up new motor mounts with NO help. My dad came over and welded up the mounts and we had it on the road the next day. If you decide to do this and have any questions, feel free to PM me.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:00 AM   #35
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get a new frame... ive seen them as cheap as 250. find a buddy with a chain lift. the swap isnt hard, time consuming yes. i would plan on alot of headaches.... guess that youre going to have to fight alot of bolts. dunk the lowerhalf of the jeep in PB blaster..... or just just spray the crap out of every bolt on the whole under carriage periodically for a few days before you start.
Yeah I plan on spending today laying on the ground spraying pretty much every bolt on that thing. I'm gonna have to invest in the big tub of PB
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:02 AM   #36
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That my friends, is how it is done!

Just finished my frame swap a few weeks ago. I completely disassebled it and got all the way to welding up new motor mounts with NO help. My dad came over and welded up the mounts and we had it on the road the next day. If you decide to do this and have any questions, feel free to PM me.
your and mr blaine's techniques sound a lot easier than what i had in mind. PM sent haha
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:04 AM   #37
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yeah im actually looking online for junkyards in the area as we speak, if anyone knows of any in the warren/sussex are of NJ let me know. And yeah as much as it sucks, I'm kind of excited to do this kind of work. Definitly a good experience as far as learning about jeeps goes. Should be interesting to say the least

All American auto salvage in avenel NJ....

they always have a lot of jeeps there.... maybe only a hour or so drive from where your at and they have trucks and deliver all over the state as well...
dont have the # of hand but google will get you there....

good luck! i am in the pine barrens and the acidic soil down here does wonders to frames. i hose mine down after every ride and coat in rustolem 2/3 times a year to try to prevent it from happening.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:05 AM   #38
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While I'm doing this i might as well take a bunch of pictures and turn it into a sort of write up for a frame swap. That will help me keep things straight, and hopefully help the next poor ******* who lives in the salt belt with a bucket of rust

And thanks to everybody with offers for frames, I'm definitly keeping my eyes open for one. I've got a few calls to make on monday to some people in south jersey.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:17 AM   #39
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I also would like to know, if you guys were going to have your jeeps this far apart, are there any upgrades that are definitly worth doing? I'm just curious what you guys would do in my position.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 10:22 AM   #40
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I also would like to know, if you guys were going to have your jeeps this far apart, are there any upgrades that are definitly worth doing? I'm just curious what you guys would do in my position.
I put a 2.5" RC lift on mine while I had it apart. I also took the opportunity to change all of the fluids to synthetic, and replace the exhaust.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 12:59 PM   #41
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I put a 2.5" RC lift on mine while I had it apart. I also took the opportunity to change all of the fluids to synthetic, and replace the exhaust.
Yeah I had a MML waiting to go in when this happened, so I'll put that on while its all torn apart. I'm also thinking I might as well throw on a 1" body lift. Why not right? haha I REALLY would love to find some cheap axles with better gearing to throw in, but I'm going to college in a month and need all the money I can get, so I'm not sure if thats gonna happen.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 02:29 PM   #42
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While I'm doing this i might as well take a bunch of pictures and turn it into a sort of write up for a frame swap. That will help me keep things straight, and hopefully help the next poor ******* who lives in the salt belt with a bucket of rust

And thanks to everybody with offers for frames, I'm definitly keeping my eyes open for one. I've got a few calls to make on monday to some people in south jersey.
That my friend, would be AWESOME and MOST appreciated! Thanks ahead.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 02:33 PM   #43
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Not really, were it me, I'd pull the front clip, jack the body up and shove poles through from side to side to hold it up since I don't have an A frame. Push the old rolling chassis out from under it, swap the drivetrain into it and push it back under the body.
So where is the engine, tranny, and drive train hanging through all of this?
On the old rusted chassis as you roll it forward from under the Jeep? Then you
still have to swap all the axles and such. Somehow it sounds like an incredible amount of work. But then again, I have never done it, and the hardest thing I have done so far is a clutch replacement and a fender replacement with BL/MML at the same time.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 02:38 PM   #44
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I looked up a new frame from the dealer because I was curious.

Its part # 52058811AB and list price is $2,185.00.
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Unread 08-01-2010, 03:48 PM   #45
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So where is the engine, tranny, and drive train hanging through all of this?
On the old rusted chassis as you roll it forward from under the Jeep? Then you
still have to swap all the axles and such. Somehow it sounds like an incredible amount of work. But then again, I have never done it, and the hardest thing I have done so far is a clutch replacement and a fender replacement with BL/MML at the same time.
Yeah no matter how you look at it, its not an easy job. Funny thing is, you probably have me beat as far as experience . I've done a suspension lift, replaced a fender, and was planning on doing a MML today until this happened. That's all I've got as far as jeep experience
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