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Unread 03-20-2010, 09:09 AM   #1
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Ford HP D44

I found one of these in my area for $150. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's a pretty good price. Now I've heard of people cutting these down and using Waggy shafts, but I can't seem to find any threads on it. Could anyone give me a link? Or would I be better off keeping it Like it is and getting a 9" or D60 rear? (probably a stupid question)

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Unread 03-20-2010, 09:34 AM   #2
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I've heard of guys using 1971-1977 Ford High Pinion Dana 44's from an F-150/bronco. They went to disks in 1976, and the F-150/bronco version was 5 on 5.5. The bronco version was 58" wide. If it has a radius arm wedge, the wedge is pressed on to the tube...the tube isn't one piece. www.therangerstation.com has some good Dana 44 info for you.

I'm still trying to decide, as I have a waggy 44 in my garage, but I'll have to convert to the ford outers/rotors/hubs to get 5x5.5 to match the adapters I bought for my 8.8
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depends on what HP D44 it is. if its a HP D44 from a 77-79 F250, then heck yea. if its a HP D44 from 78-79 F150/Bronco its useless.

read this:
Dana 44 Solid Front Axle: Part 1 Reverse Spiral Housing
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another good reference:

The Driver Side Differential Dana 44
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I emailed the guy and it's from a '79 f-150. So I guess it's not worth anything?
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you want this

Yes. Yes I do.
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From those links it looks like unless it came out of a super cab truck it won't be worth anything.
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Lots of people say the 1/2ton D44 from Ford's 77-1/2-79 F150 trucks is a bad axle to use. But figure, its installed in a truck that weighs much more than your Jeep and many truck owners run 33s on the stock truck setup. Many TJ owners install a 8.8 into the rear but that has tube-to-diff-housing issues which get handled. Why not do the same to the 1/2tn D44?

Yah, it uses radius arms, but so what. What do you think longarms from many aftermarket suspensions are? They tie the upper link to the lower link. Also, there are some things you can do to a Ford radius arm that minimizes the stock design flaws.
Many talk down on the axle, but really, it is bigger, larger, heavier than the stock D30 and has manual hubs, larger brakes, larger hub bearings and uses the same size ujoint (297/760) as benefits.

Yah, it will take some work to make it mount under the Jeep frame, but all that can be handled with a some intuative bracket design and welding. Get the matching rear 9" axle from the same truck.
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Lots of people say the 1/2ton D44 from Ford's 77-1/2-79 F150 trucks is a bad axle to use. But figure, its installed in a truck that weighs much more than your Jeep and many truck owners run 33s on the stock truck setup. Many TJ owners install a 8.8 into the rear but that has tube-to-diff-housing issues which get handled. Why not do the same to the 1/2tn D44?

Yah, it uses radius arms, but so what. What do you think longarms from many aftermarket suspensions are? They tie the upper link to the lower link. Also, there are some things you can do to a Ford radius arm that minimizes the stock design flaws.
Many talk down on the axle, but really, it is bigger, larger, heavier than the stock D30 and has manual hubs, larger brakes, larger hub bearings and uses the same size ujoint (297/760) as benefits.

Yah, it will take some work to make it mount under the Jeep frame, but all that can be handled with a some intuative bracket design and welding. Get the matching rear 9" axle from the same truck.
get one, stuff it in and give us a write up
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What I don't understand is the number of people who go full width (if you don't narrow it). Once you decide on living with the width, or narrowing, I can;'t see not stepping right up to the 60.

Especially when they use the matching rear 60 with the full width 44 front...........
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What I don't understand is the number of people who go full width (if you don't narrow it). Once you decide on living with the width, or narrowing, I can;'t see not stepping right up to the 60.

Especially when they use the matching rear 60 with the full width 44 front...........
not everyone want's 1 tons and 42's
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From what I have seen, the width causes more trail issues than clearance under the pumpkin. And you can always get into shaving............

Oh and my bud that runs tons and 42s has MORE diff clearance than I do on 37s with D44s..........I would venture to say that 39s would probably give him similar diff clearance to what I have on 37s. Axle strength/durability is another story.

Dont forget the second part of my statement. I know around here we have a bunch of folks willing to use that rear 60..............They do this (IMHO) due to cost. But find that they want a tire big enough to justify that rear 60 and eventually realize the front HP44 ain't up to the task that the rear can handle.

Now if we can find some waggy width HP44s, I want to be first in line! ?(without needing to narrow)
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if there was a 60-62" HP44 it would be the perfect fit for a TJ.
But, a narrowed SD, HP44 and a 44 rear give you much better gearing options for 35's
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if there was a 60-62" HP44 it would be the perfect fit for a TJ.
But, a narrowed SD, HP44 and a 44 rear give you much better gearing options for 35's


Absolutely! But the narrowing puts (me at least) too dang close to a 60 to bother with the 44. I am specifically talking about a FULL WIDTH front 44.
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