[thebulkinator]

Would I be able to install a flat belly skid(as in 9th degree or the such) with no lift? I have heard this before, can anyone verify this? If this is true then I will go to a 1" BL, 31" MT's and no BB and just install some lockers. Any more info you can provide would be great!

[roscoefiftysix]

I can't think of a reason why not, but if you are doing a BL, you might want to consider a 1" Motor Mount lift to keep everything lined up in front.

[thebulkinator]

Originally Posted by roscoefiftysix

I can't think of a reason why not, but if you are doing a BL, you might want to consider a 1" Motor Mount lift to keep everything lined up in front.

Sorry I didnt put that in there, a MML would be in the plan.

[Hanzo]

Ummm...good question. Keep in mind that you'll have to raise your transfer case which is why you usually need an SYE and new driveshaft. But if you don't have a lift and do a MML, you might be able to get away with it.

[red99tj]

if you dont have a lift i think you can do it. Im pretty sure Luipin_Sea on this forum did it and he has a BB and a 1" BL.. Ill try to find it....

EDIT: here it is
http://homepage.mac.com/jgreening/jeepmods/Personal104.html

[thebulkinator]

Originally Posted by red99tj

if you dont have a lift i think you can do it. Im pretty sure Luipin_Sea on this forum did it and he has a BB and a 1" BL.. Ill try to find it....

EDIT: here it is
http://homepage.mac.com/jgreening/jeepmods/Personal104.html

I read his writeup about 2x, and while I found it helpful it still doesnt tell me if with no lift I'd have to get an sye/cv etc. My main question is would I be able to fit the flat skid with no lift and no have to have a sye/cv? I would however put a mml/bl on.

[blacksheep1]

not talking from experience here (just research) but, many 2" lifts dont even include t-case drops. i spoke to the head mechanic at a jeep shop i use and he said vibes are usually not an issue but they install a t-case drop with those lifts anyway just to prevent any vibes possibilty. aparrently the point vibes are encountered vary jeep to jeep, but there is room to change the alignment between the axles and the t-case without the need for a drop or a "cv" shaft. using the MML and BL from what ive researched reduces the amount of drop needed by about 1/2". since a flat skid raises the t-case by around 2" (depending on brand and style) i would think you would be close to needing no drivetrain mod at all. but if you did experience vibes you could drop the skid enough to eliminate them and maybe it wouldn't be enough of a drop to annoy you. you would definitely still have gained a lot of clearance over the stock setup. if you absolutely do not like dropping the t-case you could always opt for the "cv" and sye later after youve determined the level of their necessity.

[ChristopherJ]

Originally Posted by thebulkinator

I read his writeup about 2x, and while I found it helpful it still doesnt tell me if with no lift I'd have to get an sye/cv etc. My main question is would I be able to fit the flat skid with no lift and no have to have a sye/cv? I would however put a mml/bl on.

From the write-up...

The following are the minimum REQUIRED for the installation of the Go-Fer-It low-profile skid plate:
- 1 Motor Mount Lift
- 1 Body Lift

If your TJ already has a SUSPENSION LIFT of any height youll also need:
- Slip Yoke Eliminator (JB Conversions HD NP231 w/ SYE)
- CV Rear Driveshaft (Tom Woods CV Driveshaft)
- Rear Adjustable Upper Control Arms (Nth Degree Mobility)

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by red99tj

if you dont have a lift i think you can do it. Im pretty sure Luipin_Sea on this forum did it and he has a BB and a 1" BL.. Ill try to find it....

EDIT: here it is
http://homepage.mac.com/jgreening/jeepmods/Personal104.html

That's not a flat skid.

This is a flat skid-

[red99tj]

Originally Posted by mrblaine

That's not a flat skid.

This is a flat skid-

its alot flatter than the stock skid....i gave him a suggestion.....

(at least show a pic of a t-case skid, not a gas tank skid )

[kizer]

From what I understand with my purchase of my Nth Degree skid they are no longer selling flat skids, but just Tummy Tucks.

When you raise your transfercase you are going to gain roughly 3-inches in clearence. With that in mind think of it as a 3-inch lift minus the suspension lift. So anything you add to it is going to influence your angles on your rear pinion and of course that annoying vibe we all dread.

Personally if your even considering a Bellyup go all the way. SYE, CV driveshaft and the Bellup. Reason is say it is when you decide to go bigger on a lift your going to have to do the SYE and driveline anyways.

[red99tj]

Originally Posted by thebulkinator

I read his writeup about 2x, and while I found it helpful it still doesnt tell me if with no lift I'd have to get an sye/cv etc. My main question is would I be able to fit the flat skid with no lift and no have to have a sye/cv? I would however put a mml/bl on.

why dont you PM him?

[NetJunkie]

You can do the Nth TT with no BL or MML. The Nth includes a lower profile tranny mount so the TC is raised about 2". If they used the stock mount it would be another inch or so. So it's only like doing a 2" lift.

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by red99tj

its alot flatter than the stock skid....i gave him a suggestion.....

(at least show a pic of a t-case skid, not a gas tank skid )

[dirtgrip]

Yes Sir that is one flat skid!!!! 3/8 in Alum or steel? Did you have to modify the tub to fit Tcase or linkage?